• Where's Allan Higdon

    From Bill Bradshaw@bradshaw@gci.net to alt.comp.freeware on Thu Dec 4 13:35:41 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.freeware

    I liked his posts about free software and keeping us informed about updates.
    --
    <Bill>

    Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska


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  • From John C.@r9jmg0@yahoo.com to alt.comp.freeware on Fri Dec 5 03:16:11 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.freeware

    ill Bradshaw wrote:
    I liked his posts about free software and keeping us informed about updates.

    He's still posting almost every day. I see his posts. Not sure why
    you're not seeing them, Bill.
    --
    John C. No ad, CD, cripple, demo, nag, pay, pirated, share, spy,
    time-limited, trial or web wares for me please. I filter crossposts,
    various trolls & dizum.com. This makes ACF easier to read. Take back
    tech corporations from India & industry back from China.
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  • From s|b@me@privacy.invalid to alt.comp.freeware on Fri Dec 5 14:42:10 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.freeware

    On Thu, 4 Dec 2025 13:35:41 -0900, Bill Bradshaw wrote:

    I liked his posts about free software and keeping us informed about updates.

    You've got some dirt in your eyes?
    --
    s|b
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  • From VanguardLH@V@nguard.LH to alt.comp.freeware on Fri Dec 5 13:09:27 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.freeware

    Bill Bradshaw <bradshaw@gci.net> wrote:

    I liked his posts about free software and keeping us informed about updates.

    Check your filters. Maybe you plonked him, or posters submitting to news.usenet.ovh.

    He had 7 posts, so far, today. Howard Knight is farked at the moment,
    so I couldn't give you a URL to one of his archived posts. Here's the
    headers from his most recent post (at the time of my reply):

    Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!news.usenet.ovh!.POSTED!not-for-mail
    From: "Allan Higdon" <allanh@vivaldi.net>
    Newsgroups: alt.comp.freeware
    Subject: [Update] Audacity 3.7.6
    Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2025 07:28:55 -0600
    Organization: NUO - News.Usenet.Ovh
    Message-ID: <op.3g23qhgj1svx94@desktop-57ei6ka.attlocal.net>
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
    Injection-Info: news.usenet.ovh; posting-account="allanh";
    logging-data="2220270"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@usenet.ovh" User-Agent: Opera Mail/1.0 (Win32)
    Cancel-Lock: sha1:xDn7mjSbmpqb5jq4tobxZtwIhNo= sha256:npP4q7jvvBhjUucai8wTlwuLthLK4JDLM4cIrMaHS9s=
    Lines: 18
    Xref: uni-berlin.de alt.comp.freeware:995353

    Check your filters to see if you are killfiling him. With regex a
    filter can be narrowed to help ensure the intended target is who got
    filtered, and reduce false positives. Your NNTP client (Outlook
    Express) doesn't support regex, so maybe one of your filters is too
    broad. For example, perhaps you filter out update posts. I do, but I ignore-flag those post, and use a default view of Hide Ignored instead
    of deleting any posts which makes it impossible to revisit them unless
    you unsubscribe, clear the newsgroup, and resubscribe to the newsgroup
    to get a fresh list of articles from the server.

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  • From JJ@jj4public@gmail.com to alt.comp.freeware on Sat Dec 6 02:26:46 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.freeware

    On Fri, 05 Dec 2025 14:42:10 +0100, s|b wrote:
    On Thu, 4 Dec 2025 13:35:41 -0900, Bill Bradshaw wrote:

    I liked his posts about free software and keeping us informed about updates.

    You've got some dirt in your eyes?

    Finding Carmen Sandiego is harder.
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  • From Bill Bradshaw@bradshaw@gci.net to alt.comp.freeware on Fri Dec 5 10:39:36 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.freeware

    "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:10guets$1976j$1@dont-email.me...
    ill Bradshaw wrote:
    I liked his posts about free software and keeping us informed about
    updates.

    He's still posting almost every day. I see his posts. Not sure why
    you're not seeing them, Bill.

    I can see him through Thunderbird but I still use Outlook Express because it is simple. I am running Windows 11 Pro. So for some reason OE does not
    like vivald.net anymore. So I will check him out with Thunderbird. Thanks for the responses.
    --
    <Bill>

    Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska


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  • From Bill Bradshaw@bradshaw@gci.net to alt.comp.freeware on Fri Dec 5 11:56:34 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.freeware

    John C. wrote:
    ill Bradshaw wrote:
    I liked his posts about free software and keeping us informed about
    updates.

    He's still posting almost every day. I see his posts. Not sure why
    you're not seeing them, Bill.

    Sorry but I trying a test to see if this will appear.
    --
    <Bill>

    Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska


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  • From Bill Bradshaw@bradshaw@gci.net to alt.comp.freeware on Fri Dec 5 13:08:20 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.freeware

    John C. wrote:
    ill Bradshaw wrote:
    I liked his posts about free software and keeping us informed about
    updates.

    He's still posting almost every day. I see his posts. Not sure why
    you're not seeing them, Bill.

    Sorry, I am going nuts trying to figure my posting problem.
    --
    <Bill>

    Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska


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  • From Mike Easter@MikeE@ster.invalid to alt.comp.freeware on Fri Dec 5 17:58:01 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.freeware

    Bill Bradshaw wrote:
    Sorry, I am going nuts trying to figure my posting problem.

    OE .dbx files are subject to corruption.
    --
    Mike Easter
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  • From VanguardLH@V@nguard.LH to alt.comp.freeware on Fri Dec 5 22:06:06 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.freeware

    Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote:

    Bill Bradshaw wrote:

    Sorry, I am going nuts trying to figure my posting problem.

    OE .dbx files are subject to corruption.

    As I recall, to fix meant you unsubscribed from a newsgroup, cleared it
    (delete the local cache of articles), and resubscribed to the newsgroup. However, I also recall that a problem at the NNTP server could result in renumbering the articles, like after a restore, and the client gets out
    of sync (article numbers don't match). You make the client refresh its articles for a newsgroup to get the new article enumeration.

    Maybe the OP's client ran out of space in the database, and needs to run
    a compact. OE's .dbx file has a limit of 2GB.

    https://almersoft.com/outlook-express-compact-messages/

    When you delete a message in OE, it is NOT removed from the database.
    It merely gets marked with a "Deleted" flag to thereafter hide it from
    view. It still occupies space in the database until the database gets compacted. However, some users disabled compaction (perhaps with a
    registry edit or config setting), because compaction could corrupt the
    message store.
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  • From Marcus Kaplan@nomail@privacy.invalid to alt.comp.freeware on Sat Dec 6 00:08:46 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.freeware

    VanguardLH wrote:

    He had 7 posts, so far, today. Howard Knight is farked at the moment,
    so I couldn't give you a URL to one of his archived posts.


    One can still give a narkive URL or a pugleaf URL.

    Such as these two URLs, each to a different one of Allan Higdon's very
    recent posts.

    <https://alt.comp.freeware.narkive.com/b8w1e78b/update-media-player-classic-home-cinema-2-5-6>

    <https://rocksolid-us.pugleaf.net/groups/alt.comp.freeware/thread/817218>

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  • From John C.@r9jmg0@yahoo.com to alt.comp.freeware on Sat Dec 6 02:16:49 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.freeware

    On 25/12/05 11:39 AM, Bill Bradshaw wrote:
    "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:10guets$1976j$1@dont-email.me...
    ill Bradshaw wrote:
    I liked his posts about free software and keeping us informed about
    updates.

    He's still posting almost every day. I see his posts. Not sure why
    you're not seeing them, Bill.

    I can see him through Thunderbird but I still use Outlook Express because it is simple. I am running Windows 11 Pro. So for some reason OE does not like vivald.net anymore. So I will check him out with Thunderbird. Thanks for the responses.

    You could get a Usenet account with Eternal-September. That's what I'm
    using and despite the rare hickup, it works really well.

    https://www.eternal-september.org/?language=en&showpage=home
    --
    John C. No ad, CD, cripple, demo, nag, pay, pirated, share, spy,
    time-limited, trial or web wares for me please. I filter crossposts,
    various trolls & dizum.com. This makes ACF easier to read. Take back
    tech corporations from India & industry back from China.
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  • From John C.@r9jmg0@yahoo.com to alt.comp.freeware on Sat Dec 6 02:18:20 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.freeware

    On 25/12/05 05:58 PM, Mike Easter wrote:
    Bill Bradshaw wrote:
    Sorry, I am going nuts trying to figure my posting problem.

    OE .dbx files are subject to corruption.

    You have a point, Mike. A friend of mine lost all of his archived email
    because of that problem once. And he was relying on it for his business.
    --
    John C. No ad, CD, cripple, demo, nag, pay, pirated, share, spy,
    time-limited, trial or web wares for me please. I filter crossposts,
    various trolls & dizum.com. This makes ACF easier to read. Take back
    tech corporations from India & industry back from China.
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  • From s|b@me@privacy.invalid to alt.comp.freeware on Sat Dec 6 13:18:48 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.freeware

    On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 02:26:46 +0700, JJ wrote:

    Finding Carmen Sandiego is harder.

    (-:

    (Had to look it up though.)
    --
    s|b
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  • From s|b@me@privacy.invalid to alt.comp.freeware on Sat Dec 6 13:21:59 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.freeware

    On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 02:16:49 -0800, John C. wrote:

    You could get a Usenet account with Eternal-September. That's what I'm
    using and despite the rare hickup, it works really well.

    https://www.eternal-september.org/?language=en&showpage=home

    Bill is using NIN which is (I'm sorry, Ray) superior to ES and he's paid
    for it. No reason to switch to ES. I'm also using NIN and I can see
    Allan's postings, so it's not NIN.
    --
    s|b
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  • From occam@occam@nowhere.nix to alt.comp.freeware on Sat Dec 6 16:54:24 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.freeware

    On 06/12/2025 13:21, s|b wrote:
    On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 02:16:49 -0800, John C. wrote:

    You could get a Usenet account with Eternal-September. That's what I'm
    using and despite the rare hickup, it works really well.

    https://www.eternal-september.org/?language=en&showpage=home

    Bill is using NIN which is (I'm sorry, Ray) superior to ES and he's paid
    for it. No reason to switch to ES. I'm also using NIN and I can see
    Allan's postings, so it's not NIN.


    (You should also mention that NIN - excellent as it is - has given
    notice to its clients of the end of its operation in the coming year. )

    <sigh>
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  • From Mike Easter@MikeE@ster.invalid to alt.comp.freeware on Sat Dec 6 09:34:59 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.freeware

    occam wrote:
    You should also mention that NIN - excellent as it is - has given
    notice to its clients of the end of its operation in the coming year.

    I didn't know that until I went to their website, ends '27 Sep.

    Presumably that decision was made at the .uni level of Freie Universität Berlin which computer dept operates the service.

    I've been using it since it was free cis.dfn.de.

    Free es patterns itself after NIN, but probably doesn't have as much
    manpower and resources.
    --
    Mike Easter
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  • From s|b@me@privacy.invalid to alt.comp.freeware on Sat Dec 6 18:43:24 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.freeware

    On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 16:54:24 +0100, occam wrote:

    (You should also mention that NIN - excellent as it is - has given
    notice to its clients of the end of its operation in the coming year. )

    Service ends Sept 30 *2027*. Until then, I expect they'll continue to
    provide an excellent service.
    --
    s|b
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  • From Mike Easter@MikeE@ster.invalid to alt.comp.freeware on Sat Dec 6 10:05:14 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.freeware

    s|b wrote:
    Service ends Sept 30 *2027*.

    Site sez: 'The era of usenet is over'

    Probably the .uni decision makers are blinded by their involvement w/
    social media.

    I agree that times are different for usenet than they used to be, but I
    don't agree that it is 'over'. It has been changing since the beginning.

    Society would probably be better off w/ just what was/ is/ and has been/
    wrong w/ usenet society compared to what is currently wrong w/
    browser/phone internet society.
    --
    Mike Easter
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  • From s|b@me@privacy.invalid to alt.comp.freeware on Sat Dec 6 20:01:34 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.freeware

    On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 02:16:49 -0800, John C. wrote:

    You could get a Usenet account with Eternal-September. That's what I'm
    using and despite the rare hickup, it works really well.

    https://www.eternal-september.org/?language=en&showpage=home

    Right now, I can't reach ES:

    400 Internal error (1). Goodbye!

    Status page says: all green.

    <https://www.eternal-september.org/serverstatus.php?language=en>
    --
    s|b
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  • From Allan Higdon@allanh@vivaldi.net to alt.comp.freeware on Sat Dec 6 13:47:02 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.freeware

    On Sat, 06 Dec 2025 13:01:34 -0600, s|b <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

    On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 02:16:49 -0800, John C. wrote:

    You could get a Usenet account with Eternal-September. That's what I'm
    using and despite the rare hickup, it works really well.

    https://www.eternal-september.org/?language=en&showpage=home

    Right now, I can't reach ES:

    400 Internal error (1). Goodbye!

    Status page says: all green.

    <https://www.eternal-september.org/serverstatus.php?language=en>


    I changed my news server in August of this year to NUO: news.usenet.ovh.
    To post messages, you need an account, but it's free to use.
    I've had no problems with it.

    https://usenet.ovh/
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  • From s|b@me@privacy.invalid to alt.comp.freeware on Sat Dec 6 21:17:46 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.freeware

    On Sat, 06 Dec 2025 13:47:02 -0600, Allan Higdon wrote:

    I changed my news server in August of this year to NUO: news.usenet.ovh.
    To post messages, you need an account, but it's free to use.
    I've had no problems with it.

    https://usenet.ovh/

    I still got NIN and Astraweb. Bought a 10 GiB block ages ago. And then
    there's Solani.

    I've had my eye on usenet.ohv, but I haven't registered yet. An e-mail
    to contact@usenet.ovh and you'll get an account? Is supports SSL?
    --
    s|b
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  • From s|b@me@privacy.invalid to alt.comp.freeware on Sun Dec 7 14:52:13 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.freeware

    On Sat, 06 Dec 2025 20:01:34 +0100, s|b wrote:

    Right now, I can't reach ES:

    400 Internal error (1). Goodbye!

    Status page says: all green.

    <https://www.eternal-september.org/serverstatus.php?language=en>

    ES is working again! (-:
    --
    s|b
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  • From s|b@me@privacy.invalid to alt.comp.freeware on Sun Dec 7 14:57:05 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.freeware

    On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 10:05:14 -0800, Mike Easter wrote:

    Site sez: 'The era of usenet is over'

    Probably the .uni decision makers are blinded by their involvement w/
    social media.

    I agree that times are different for usenet than they used to be, but I don't agree that it is 'over'. It has been changing since the beginning.

    Society would probably be better off w/ just what was/ is/ and has been/ wrong w/ usenet society compared to what is currently wrong w/
    browser/phone internet society.

    I don't know where they all come from, but lately eternal-september has
    been getting some new people. I imagine people who are fed up by the
    algorithm and the toxicity in places like X or Reddit.

    Usenet can be blunt, but if you don't like it, then you can set a kill
    filter and - poof - they're gone.
    --
    s|b
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  • From Allan Higdon@allanh@vivaldi.net to alt.comp.freeware on Sun Dec 7 08:52:26 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.freeware

    On Sat, 06 Dec 2025 14:17:46 -0600, s|b <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

    On Sat, 06 Dec 2025 13:47:02 -0600, Allan Higdon wrote:

    I changed my news server in August of this year to NUO: news.usenet.ovh.
    To post messages, you need an account, but it's free to use.
    I've had no problems with it.

    https://usenet.ovh/

    I still got NIN and Astraweb. Bought a 10 GiB block ages ago. And then there's Solani.

    I've had my eye on usenet.ohv, but I haven't registered yet. An e-mail
    to contact@usenet.ovh and you'll get an account? Is supports SSL?


    Yes, I received an email reply to my account request the same day.
    It does support SSL.
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  • From Kerr-Mudd, John@admin@127.0.0.1 to alt.comp.freeware on Sun Dec 7 20:59:38 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.freeware

    On Sun, 07 Dec 2025 08:52:26 -0600
    "Allan Higdon" <allanh@vivaldi.net> wrote:

    On Sat, 06 Dec 2025 14:17:46 -0600, s|b <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

    On Sat, 06 Dec 2025 13:47:02 -0600, Allan Higdon wrote:

    I changed my news server in August of this year to NUO: news.usenet.ovh. >> To post messages, you need an account, but it's free to use.
    I've had no problems with it.

    https://usenet.ovh/

    I still got NIN and Astraweb. Bought a 10 GiB block ages ago. And then there's Solani.

    I've had my eye on usenet.ohv, but I haven't registered yet. An e-mail
    to contact@usenet.ovh and you'll get an account? Is supports SSL?


    Yes, I received an email reply to my account request the same day.
    It does support SSL.


    https://usenet-ovh.translate.goog/index.php?article=faq_serveur_gratuit&_x_tr_sl=fr&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=fr&_x_tr_pto=wapp

    Looked "unamerican" to me!
    --
    Bah, and indeed Humbug.
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  • From s|b@me@privacy.invalid to alt.comp.freeware on Mon Dec 8 12:49:06 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.freeware

    On Sun, 7 Dec 2025 20:59:38 +0000, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:

    https://usenet-ovh.translate.goog/index.php?article=faq_serveur_gratuit&_x_tr_sl=fr&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=fr&_x_tr_pto=wapp

    Looked "unamerican" to me!

    Your point being?
    --
    s|b
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  • From s|b@me@privacy.invalid to alt.comp.freeware on Mon Dec 8 12:49:41 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.freeware

    On Sun, 07 Dec 2025 08:52:26 -0600, Allan Higdon wrote:

    I've had my eye on usenet.ohv, but I haven't registered yet. An e-mail
    to contact@usenet.ovh and you'll get an account? Is supports SSL?

    Yes, I received an email reply to my account request the same day.
    It does support SSL.

    I sent a request yesterday, bit so far: nothing.
    --
    s|b
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  • From Shadow@Sh@dowbr.invalid to alt.comp.freeware on Mon Dec 8 08:54:20 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.freeware

    On Mon, 08 Dec 2025 12:49:06 +0100, "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

    On Sun, 7 Dec 2025 20:59:38 +0000, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:

    https://usenet-ovh.translate.goog/index.php?article=faq_serveur_gratuit&_x_tr_sl=fr&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=fr&_x_tr_pto=wapp

    Looked "unamerican" to me!

    Your point being?

    The servers don't doze off so often?
    Just guessing.
    []'s
    --
    Don't be evil - Google 2004
    We have a new policy - Google 2012
    Google Fuchsia - 2021
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  • From Kerr-Mudd, John@admin@127.0.0.1 to alt.comp.freeware on Mon Dec 8 20:17:08 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.freeware

    On Mon, 08 Dec 2025 12:49:06 +0100
    "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

    On Sun, 7 Dec 2025 20:59:38 +0000, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:

    https://usenet-ovh.translate.goog/index.php?article=faq_serveur_gratuit&_x_tr_sl=fr&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=fr&_x_tr_pto=wapp

    Looked "unamerican" to me!

    Your point being?

    Try it out.

    The raw website has a language setting choice - (default in French)
    American and German.

    Choosing "American" sends the website to google translate (as url above)
    which failed to translate it into "american"
    --
    Bah, and indeed Humbug.
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  • From s|b@me@privacy.invalid to alt.comp.freeware on Tue Dec 9 14:06:16 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.freeware

    On Mon, 8 Dec 2025 20:17:08 +0000, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:

    <https://usenet-ovh.translate.goog/index.php?article=faq_serveur_gratuit&_x_tr_sl=fr&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=fr&_x_tr_pto=wapp>

    The raw website has a language setting choice - (default in French)
    American and German.

    Choosing "American" sends the website to google translate (as url above) which failed to translate it into "american"

    Ah, I see. So it translated in decent English? (-;
    --
    s|b
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  • From s|b@me@privacy.invalid to alt.comp.freeware on Tue Dec 9 14:15:44 2025
    From Newsgroup: alt.comp.freeware

    On Mon, 08 Dec 2025 08:54:20 -0300, Shadow wrote:

    On Mon, 08 Dec 2025 12:49:06 +0100, "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
    On Sun, 7 Dec 2025 20:59:38 +0000, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:

    https://usenet-ovh.translate.goog/index.php?article=faq_serveur_gratuit&_x_tr_sl=fr&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=fr&_x_tr_pto=wapp

    Looked "unamerican" to me!

    Your point being?

    The servers don't doze off so often?
    Just guessing.

    (-:
    --
    s|b
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