• Radio controlled clocks and the new DST (mine didn't work)

    From Radio Guy@Radio@Guy.com to alt.ham-radio.hf,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.misc on Sun Mar 11 18:58:56 2007
    From Newsgroup: alt.ham-radio.hf

    Did the 60 khz Ft. Collins time signal transmitter send out the
    correct time signals this morning?

    I've got 3 different radio-controlled clocks (atomix I think) and none
    of them had the right time this morning.
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  • From Dee Flint@deeflint01@comcast.net to alt.ham-radio.hf,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.misc on Sun Mar 11 19:05:22 2007
    From Newsgroup: alt.ham-radio.hf


    "Radio Guy" <Radio@Guy.com> wrote in message
    news:45F489B0.66F1FA65@Guy.com...
    Did the 60 khz Ft. Collins time signal transmitter send out the
    correct time signals this morning?

    I've got 3 different radio-controlled clocks (atomix I think) and none
    of them had the right time this morning.

    This year my clocks set ok but did not do so until about 10am. Last year it took a week before my clocks got a strong enough signal to reset.

    Dee, N8UZE


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  • From Ron Hardin@rhhardin@mindspring.com to alt.ham-radio.hf,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.misc on Sun Mar 11 23:17:21 2007
    From Newsgroup: alt.ham-radio.hf

    Radio Guy wrote:

    Did the 60 khz Ft. Collins time signal transmitter send out the
    correct time signals this morning?

    I've got 3 different radio-controlled clocks (atomix I think) and none
    of them had the right time this morning.

    I have 13 RC clocks and 4 of them didn't catch the DST bit, but the
    rest did.
    --
    Ron Hardin
    rhhardin@mindspring.com

    On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.
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  • From wf3h@wf3h@vsswireless.net to alt.ham-radio.hf,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.misc on Sun Mar 11 18:03:00 2007
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    Radio Guy wrote:
    Did the 60 khz Ft. Collins time signal transmitter send out the
    correct time signals this morning?

    I've got 3 different radio-controlled clocks (atomix I think) and none
    of them had the right time this morning.

    had 2 that reset....wristwatch did not until i forced it to
    reset....other clock still hasn't reset.

    here in dallas

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  • From Joe Analssandrini@analssandrinij@yahoo.com to alt.ham-radio.hf,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.misc on Sun Mar 11 20:48:38 2007
    From Newsgroup: alt.ham-radio.hf

    On Mar 11, 6:58 pm, Radio Guy <R...@Guy.com> wrote:
    Did the 60 khz Ft. Collins time signal transmitter send out the
    correct time signals this morning?

    I've got 3 different radio-controlled clocks (atomix I think) and none
    of them had the right time this morning.

    Hello All.

    I have fifteen of these clocks. Two of them (both LaCrosse digital
    models) are set to GMT and do not change when DST is incorporated. Of
    the other thirteen (three analog models), all but two showed the
    correct time this morning. One which did not catch the signal was one
    of my analog clocks. I "forced" it to hunt for the signal around 10:30
    AM EDT and, after finding it, did set itself correctly. However,
    tonight, at approximately 8:30 PM EDT, two of my analog models went a
    bit "haywire" and reset themselves to Standard Time. We shall see if
    they correct themselves later tonight. This has happened on several
    occasions previously and I do not understand why. All of the batteries
    in my clocks are fresh. The last digital clock which did not show the
    correct time this morning still, as of 11:30 PM EDT, had not corrected
    the time, so I finally did so manually. (This particular clock had
    never had this problem previously.) I live in New Jersey. I wish that
    a second transmitter were incorporated somewhat closer to the eastern
    part of the country as the signal from Ft. Collins is not completely
    reliable here. Especially now, with the low sunspot count, one would
    think that the signal on 60 kHz would travel farther and adjust the
    clocks properly. Sadly, as evidenced by all writing here, this is not
    the case.

    Best,

    Joe

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  • From Bart Bailey@me2@privacy.net to alt.ham-radio.hf,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.misc on Mon Mar 12 04:20:41 2007
    From Newsgroup: alt.ham-radio.hf

    In Message-ID:<1eydnWy5S7_QFmnYnZ2dnUVZ_tijnZ2d@comcast.com> posted on
    Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:05:22 -0400, Dee Flint wrote: Begin


    This year my clocks set ok but did not do so until about 10am. Last year it >took a week before my clocks got a strong enough signal to reset.

    I've got a projection one on a bedside table that took a couple extra
    hours to snag enough signal to process, but the rest are in better
    reception locations
    --

    Bart
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  • From Bart Bailey@me2@privacy.net to alt.ham-radio.hf,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.misc on Mon Mar 12 04:20:41 2007
    From Newsgroup: alt.ham-radio.hf

    In Message-ID:<45F489B0.66F1FA65@Guy.com> posted on Sun, 11 Mar 2007
    18:58:56 -0400, Radio Guy wrote: Begin

    Did the 60 khz Ft. Collins time signal transmitter send out the
    correct time signals this morning?

    Sure did

    I've got 3 different radio-controlled clocks (atomix I think) and none
    of them had the right time this morning.

    I've about a half dozen of them and only one has date specific firmware
    that needs to be overridden, all the rest were fine, even the WWV HF
    based E1 got it right.
    --

    Bart
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  • From Bart Bailey@me2@privacy.net to alt.ham-radio.hf,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.misc on Mon Mar 12 04:20:41 2007
    From Newsgroup: alt.ham-radio.hf

    In Message-ID:<1173661380.690640.39410@c51g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>
    posted on 11 Mar 2007 18:03:00 -0700, wf3h wrote: Begin

    had 2 that reset....wristwatch did not until i forced it to
    reset....other clock still hasn't reset.

    Is your the Casio G-Shock Solar Atomic?
    I leave mine out on the back porch at night so it will get some
    recharging sunlight if I sleep in, also gets a more reliable signal.
    --

    Bart
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  • From Ron Hardin@rhhardin@mindspring.com to alt.ham-radio.hf,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.misc on Mon Mar 12 09:06:08 2007
    From Newsgroup: alt.ham-radio.hf

    Joe Analssandrini wrote: However,
    tonight, at approximately 8:30 PM EDT, two of my analog models went a
    bit "haywire" and reset themselves to Standard Time. We shall see if
    they correct themselves later tonight. This has happened on several
    occasions previously and I do not understand why.

    La Crosse clocks have a firmware bug. When the daylight bit comes
    on at UTC 00:00, the clocks are not allowed to reset until local 02:00,
    some 7 or more hours later. So they remember it in a bit.

    They do this fine (if you have several of the same model, watch them
    do it in absolute lockstep).

    There's a slight problem at 00:00 UTC the next night (8 PM EDST!)
    when they find the daylight bit set but ``it's not 2am yet and there
    hasn't been a full day of daylight time yet'' and it says, oops, it ought
    to be standard time still, and they all reset back to standard time.

    I've never been up to see what time they reset back to correct time
    (midnight or 2am, UTC or standard or daylight time, 6 possibilities).

    La Crosse, when consulted about this, claimed that the WWVB signal overloads the clocks when they change times, translation we'd rather not replace
    a million clocks on warrantee. But I find it endearing, happening to like hardware screwups that you can figure out.

    It will do the same thing in the fall, by the way. You get 6 time changes
    a year with this chipset.
    --
    Ron Hardin
    rhhardin@mindspring.com

    On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.
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  • From RHF@rhf-newsgroups@pacbell.net to alt.ham-radio.hf,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.misc on Mon Mar 12 02:39:44 2007
    From Newsgroup: alt.ham-radio.hf

    On Mar 11, 3:58 pm, Radio Guy <R...@Guy.com> wrote:
    Did the 60 khz Ft. Collins time signal transmitter send out the
    correct time signals this morning?

    I've got 3 different radio-controlled clocks (atomix I think) and none
    of them had the right time this morning.

    Five out of Six did OK.

    Numb3r Six is on a Desk between a Computer and Printer
    below a LCD Monitor and did not reset to DST only has
    One Bar. Just put it next to a Window and got Three Bars.
    Hit the "TS Seak" Button and will check it in the Morning.

    dst waits for no one - and that is why . . .
    many of us will be late this monday ~ RHF
    .
    .
    . .

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  • From HD Radio▒@aim@their.org to alt.ham-radio.hf,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.misc on Mon Mar 12 10:36:27 2007
    From Newsgroup: alt.ham-radio.hf

    Bingo! That explains the behavior of my LaCrosse analog clock.
    Thanks.

    "Ron Hardin" <rhhardin@mindspring.com>

    La Crosse clocks have a firmware bug. When the daylight bit comes
    on at UTC 00:00, the clocks are not allowed to reset until local 02:00,
    some 7 or more hours later. So they remember it in a bit.

    They do this fine (if you have several of the same model, watch them
    do it in absolute lockstep).

    There's a slight problem at 00:00 UTC the next night (8 PM EDST!)
    when they find the daylight bit set but ``it's not 2am yet and there
    hasn't been a full day of daylight time yet'' and it says, oops, it ought
    to be standard time still, and they all reset back to standard time.

    I've never been up to see what time they reset back to correct time
    (midnight or 2am, UTC or standard or daylight time, 6 possibilities).

    La Crosse, when consulted about this, claimed that the WWVB signal
    overloads
    the clocks when they change times, translation we'd rather not replace
    a million clocks on warrantee. But I find it endearing, happening to like hardware screwups that you can figure out.

    It will do the same thing in the fall, by the way. You get 6 time changes
    a year with this chipset.



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  • From Roadie@hjsjms@cs.com to alt.ham-radio.hf,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.misc on Mon Mar 12 09:40:20 2007
    From Newsgroup: alt.ham-radio.hf

    On Mar 11, 6:58 pm, Radio Guy <R...@Guy.com> wrote:
    Did the 60 khz Ft. Collins time signal transmitter send out the
    correct time signals this morning?

    I've got 3 different radio-controlled clocks (atomix I think) and none
    of them had the right time this morning.

    My Radio Shack Atomic Clock reset itself properly.

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  • From RHF@rhf-newsgroups@pacbell.net to alt.ham-radio.hf,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.misc on Mon Mar 12 17:18:55 2007
    From Newsgroup: alt.ham-radio.hf

    On Mar 12, 2:39 am, "RHF" <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
    On Mar 11, 3:58 pm, Radio Guy <R...@Guy.com> wrote:

    Did the 60 khz Ft. Collins time signal transmitter send out the
    correct time signals this morning?

    I've got 3 different radio-controlled clocks (atomix I think) and none
    of them had the right time this morning.

    Five out of Six did OK.

    Numb3r Six is on a Desk between a Computer and Printer
    below a LCD Monitor and did not reset to DST only has
    One Bar. Just put it next to a Window and got Three Bars.
    Hit the "TS Seak" Button and will check it in the Morning.

    dst waits for no one - and that is why . . .
    many of us will be late this monday ~ RHF
    .
    .
    . .

    OK - So now # 6 has sync'ed itself. ~ RHF

    FWIW this Computer is a Dell Dimension 4700 with
    the Windows XP [OS] and it did the new DST switch
    over 'on-time' Sunday 11 March 2007.
    .
    .
    . .

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  • From Andy the Perv Timberlake@andy_theperv_timberlake@yahoo.com to alt.ham-radio.hf,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.misc on Tue Mar 13 05:39:13 2007
    From Newsgroup: alt.ham-radio.hf

    On Mar 12, 8:18 pm, "RHF" <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
    On Mar 12, 2:39 am, "RHF" <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:





    On Mar 11, 3:58 pm, Radio Guy <R...@Guy.com> wrote:

    Did the 60 khz Ft. Collins time signal transmitter send out the
    correct time signals this morning?

    I've got 3 different radio-controlled clocks (atomix I think) and none
    of them had the right time this morning.

    Five out of Six did OK.

    Numb3r Six is on a Desk between a Computer and Printer
    below a LCD Monitor and did not reset to DST only has
    One Bar. Just put it next to a Window and got Three Bars.
    Hit the "TS Seak" Button and will check it in the Morning.

    dst waits for no one - and that is why . . .
    many of us will be late this monday ~ RHF
    .
    .
    . .

    OK - So now # 6 has sync'ed itself. ~ RHF

    FWIW this Computer is a Dell Dimension 4700 with
    the Windows XP [OS] and it did the new DST switch
    over 'on-time' Sunday 11 March 2007.

    My Atomic Time dual wall clock CW8U set with DST Sunday.

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  • From Only Fair@rajohngm@worldnet.att.net to alt.ham-radio.hf,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.misc on Sat Mar 17 17:05:05 2007
    From Newsgroup: alt.ham-radio.hf

    I'm in Chicago area and only 3 of my 7 clocks set. They need more power or a better antenna system. My friends at work also had problems with lack of signal.


    "Joe Analssandrini" <analssandrinij@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1173671318.769342.136350@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
    On Mar 11, 6:58 pm, Radio Guy <R...@Guy.com> wrote:
    Did the 60 khz Ft. Collins time signal transmitter send out the
    correct time signals this morning?

    I've got 3 different radio-controlled clocks (atomix I think) and none
    of them had the right time this morning.

    Hello All.

    I have fifteen of these clocks. Two of them (both LaCrosse digital
    models) are set to GMT and do not change when DST is incorporated. Of
    the other thirteen (three analog models), all but two showed the
    correct time this morning. One which did not catch the signal was one
    of my analog clocks. I "forced" it to hunt for the signal around 10:30
    AM EDT and, after finding it, did set itself correctly. However,
    tonight, at approximately 8:30 PM EDT, two of my analog models went a
    bit "haywire" and reset themselves to Standard Time. We shall see if
    they correct themselves later tonight. This has happened on several
    occasions previously and I do not understand why. All of the batteries
    in my clocks are fresh. The last digital clock which did not show the
    correct time this morning still, as of 11:30 PM EDT, had not corrected
    the time, so I finally did so manually. (This particular clock had
    never had this problem previously.) I live in New Jersey. I wish that
    a second transmitter were incorporated somewhat closer to the eastern
    part of the country as the signal from Ft. Collins is not completely
    reliable here. Especially now, with the low sunspot count, one would
    think that the signal on 60 kHz would travel farther and adjust the
    clocks properly. Sadly, as evidenced by all writing here, this is not
    the case.

    Best,

    Joe



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  • From Dee Flint@deeflint01@comcast.net to alt.ham-radio.hf,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.misc on Sat Mar 17 13:06:16 2007
    From Newsgroup: alt.ham-radio.hf

    It just depends. This year my clocks reset the same day. Last year, one reset right away and the other took over a week.

    Dee, N8UZE


    "Only Fair" <rajohngm@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:5dVKh.156517$5j1.101470@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
    I'm in Chicago area and only 3 of my 7 clocks set. They need more power or
    a better antenna system. My friends at work also had problems with lack of signal.


    "Joe Analssandrini" <analssandrinij@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1173671318.769342.136350@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
    On Mar 11, 6:58 pm, Radio Guy <R...@Guy.com> wrote:
    Did the 60 khz Ft. Collins time signal transmitter send out the
    correct time signals this morning?

    I've got 3 different radio-controlled clocks (atomix I think) and none
    of them had the right time this morning.

    Hello All.

    I have fifteen of these clocks. Two of them (both LaCrosse digital
    models) are set to GMT and do not change when DST is incorporated. Of
    the other thirteen (three analog models), all but two showed the
    correct time this morning. One which did not catch the signal was one
    of my analog clocks. I "forced" it to hunt for the signal around 10:30
    AM EDT and, after finding it, did set itself correctly. However,
    tonight, at approximately 8:30 PM EDT, two of my analog models went a
    bit "haywire" and reset themselves to Standard Time. We shall see if
    they correct themselves later tonight. This has happened on several
    occasions previously and I do not understand why. All of the batteries
    in my clocks are fresh. The last digital clock which did not show the
    correct time this morning still, as of 11:30 PM EDT, had not corrected
    the time, so I finally did so manually. (This particular clock had
    never had this problem previously.) I live in New Jersey. I wish that
    a second transmitter were incorporated somewhat closer to the eastern
    part of the country as the signal from Ft. Collins is not completely
    reliable here. Especially now, with the low sunspot count, one would
    think that the signal on 60 kHz would travel farther and adjust the
    clocks properly. Sadly, as evidenced by all writing here, this is not
    the case.

    Best,

    Joe





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