• Looking for advice on a TNC

    From blue box thief@"blue box thief"@runningwithbulls.com to alt.ham-radio.packet on Tue Apr 10 20:35:22 2007
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    hi all,

    i have been out of amateur radio for a good number of years.
    i have finally got the room (garden and house!) for a few rigs,
    and i'd like to get back into packet.

    I would like to have the capability to do packet on V/UHF and also via satellite (if I can get an antenna up for it).

    I am also very interested in aprs (looks very useful) so the TNC
    would have to be usable with GPS/etc.

    I run a Icom IC-207 V/UHF, a Kenwood TH78e handie, and a Yaesu FT707 for HF.

    I mainly use Mac OS X, or at times Windows XP, so the TNC would have to be supported
    by Mac TNC software.

    any help greatly appreciate,

    73s de
    bernard
    ei8fdb
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  • From Phillip@usenet@notKG4IVDreal.com to alt.ham-radio.packet on Wed Apr 11 13:50:41 2007
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    On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 20:35:22 +0000, blue box thief wrote:

    hi all,

    i have been out of amateur radio for a good number of years. i have
    finally got the room (garden and house!) for a few rigs, and i'd like to
    get back into packet.

    I would like to have the capability to do packet on V/UHF and also via satellite (if I can get an antenna up for it).

    I am also very interested in aprs (looks very useful) so the TNC would
    have to be usable with GPS/etc.

    I run a Icom IC-207 V/UHF, a Kenwood TH78e handie, and a Yaesu FT707
    for HF.


    The hardest part for me was getting it to work with my radio; If I were
    to set up a second packet station, I would get a radio that had a built
    in TNC, like alinco's.

    I mainly use Mac OS X, or at times Windows XP, so the TNC would have to
    be supported by Mac TNC software.


    I think it's common to use KISS mode, which allows computer to completly generate the AX25 headers and body.

    any help greatly appreciate,

    73s de
    bernard
    ei8fdb
    --
    73 de KG4IVD
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  • From blue box thief@"blue box thief"@runningwithbulls.com to alt.ham-radio.packet on Wed Apr 11 14:44:18 2007
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    On 2007-04-11, Phillip <usenet@notKG4IVDreal.com> wrote:

    I run a Icom IC-207 V/UHF, a Kenwood TH78e handie, and a Yaesu FT707
    for HF.


    The hardest part for me was getting it to work with my radio; If I were
    to set up a second packet station, I would get a radio that had a built
    in TNC, like alinco's.

    Hmm, this is another option, but one i would look at after
    a few months of shack-based aprs operation.


    I mainly use Mac OS X, or at times Windows XP, so the TNC would have to
    be supported by Mac TNC software.


    I think it's common to use KISS mode, which allows computer to completly generate the AX25 headers and body.

    so, once they did KISS mode, thats the main thing? i had been looking
    at kantronics TNCs.

    thanks for the help phillip,

    bernard
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  • From F8BOE@f8boe@bluemail.ch to alt.ham-radio.packet on Wed Apr 11 18:45:43 2007
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    blue box thief wrote:


    hi all,

    i have been out of amateur radio for a good number of years.
    i have finally got the room (garden and house!) for a few rigs,
    and i'd like to get back into packet.

    I would like to have the capability to do packet on V/UHF and also via satellite (if I can get an antenna up for it).

    I am also very interested in aprs (looks very useful) so the TNC
    would have to be usable with GPS/etc.

    I run a Icom IC-207 V/UHF, a Kenwood TH78e handie, and a Yaesu FT707 for
    HF.

    I mainly use Mac OS X, or at times Windows XP, so the TNC would have to be supported by Mac TNC software.

    any help greatly appreciate,

    73s de
    bernard
    ei8fdb

    Hello,

    A good choice for packet should be a real TNC2 such as the TNC2-Multi or the latest TNC7-Multi from IfD Germany. It has a dual EEPROM with either TF2.7
    and 6Pack. These TNCs can work 1k2 and 9k6 packet out of the box and can
    easily be modified for 19k2. You can also combine 1k2+9k6
    I used to run a TNC2-Multi in 6Pack mode with Flex32 on a Win$hit machine.
    For sat or APRS the Flex32/Soundmodem combination should fare well.

    The TNC2-Multi can also be entered in a token ring if you have more than one
    of them... With Flex32 I was able to use APRS and Packet at the same time.

    As far as I know, there's also a pendant to Flexnet for Unix and a
    Soundmodem driver for SuSE and Debian and perhaps some sources.

    Under Win I used Paxon 2.00.1114 for packet and WPP 3.18 for APRS and some packet data transfers on FBB boxes. Winpack and AGWPE are only big jokes!
    But you can give them a try... The only problem is that there's no real challenger to Paxon or WPP for other OSs, so you should use a M$ computer
    for your ham appz.

    73 de F8BOE Olivier ...-.-
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  • From blue box thief@"blue box thief"@runningwithbulls.com to alt.ham-radio.packet on Thu Apr 12 10:05:13 2007
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    On 2007-04-11, F8BOE <f8boe@bluemail.ch> wrote:

    Hello,

    A good choice for packet should be a real TNC2 such as the TNC2-Multi or the latest TNC7-Multi from IfD Germany. It has a dual EEPROM with either TF2.7 and 6Pack. These TNCs can work 1k2 and 9k6 packet out of the box and can easily be modified for 19k2. You can also combine 1k2+9k6
    I used to run a TNC2-Multi in 6Pack mode with Flex32 on a Win$hit machine. For sat or APRS the Flex32/Soundmodem combination should fare well.

    Hmm I would prefer not having to us a windows computer tbh.

    The TNC2-Multi can also be entered in a token ring if you have more than one of them... With Flex32 I was able to use APRS and Packet at the same time.

    Hmm, I know what a token ring is..but thats where it ends ;). I'll
    take abit of time to get it up and running :)

    As far as I know, there's also a pendant to Flexnet for Unix and a
    Soundmodem driver for SuSE and Debian and perhaps some sources.

    I have been told about cocoamodem for mac. This should do the job or
    flexnet software, I think, no?

    Under Win I used Paxon 2.00.1114 for packet and WPP 3.18 for APRS and some packet data transfers on FBB boxes. Winpack and AGWPE are only big jokes!
    But you can give them a try... The only problem is that there's no real challenger to Paxon or WPP for other OSs, so you should use a M$ computer
    for your ham appz.

    Hmm, i'll keep the links, but I hope I won't have to
    use it :)

    thanks for the help Olivier. I will have a look at the TNCs..
    bernard
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  • From me@me@me.com to alt.ham-radio.packet on Thu Apr 19 21:43:25 2007
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    Have you considered a Rascal? from buxxcomm. I have one and I use it.
    it's not too bad a little limited in some of the things it can do but it can
    do packet easily.

    Mark KCØRJV

    "blue box thief" <"blue box thief"@runningwithbulls.com> wrote in message news:slrnf1oll7.mts.blueboxthief@sanfermin.my.domain...

    hi all,

    i have been out of amateur radio for a good number of years.
    i have finally got the room (garden and house!) for a few rigs,
    and i'd like to get back into packet.

    I would like to have the capability to do packet on V/UHF and also via satellite (if I can get an antenna up for it).

    I am also very interested in aprs (looks very useful) so the TNC
    would have to be usable with GPS/etc.

    I run a Icom IC-207 V/UHF, a Kenwood TH78e handie, and a Yaesu FT707 for
    HF.

    I mainly use Mac OS X, or at times Windows XP, so the TNC would have to be
    supported
    by Mac TNC software.

    any help greatly appreciate,

    73s de
    bernard
    ei8fdb



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  • From xpyttl@xpyttl_NOSPAM@earthling.net to alt.ham-radio.packet on Fri Apr 20 10:05:04 2007
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    "Phillip" <usenet@notKG4IVDreal.com> wrote in message news:461ce7b1$0$19022$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...

    The hardest part for me was getting it to work with my radio; If I were
    to set up a second packet station, I would get a radio that had a built
    in TNC, like alinco's.

    The TNCs built into radios generally aren't full TNCs, and are really only useable for APRS. You can expect them to work poorly or not at all with regular packet. As far as I can tell, all the manufacturers use the same, crippled, chipset, so Alinco, Kenwood, pretty much all the same.

    I mainly use Mac OS X, or at times Windows XP, so the TNC would have to
    be supported by Mac TNC software.

    You need to ask what you want to do. A TNC-2 is useable with only a
    terminal emulator, so it should be no issue even on a Mac. For most
    anything else you are going to have trouble finding Mac software. Some of
    the so-called packet software manipulates the terminal commands to a TNC-2,
    so you will need to match the software to the particular brand of TNC-2. Although many TNC-2 commands are consistent (and are supposed to be!), each manufacturer has to add his "improvements", ensuring at least partial incompatibility with somebody else's software.

    I think it's common to use KISS mode, which allows computer to completly generate the AX25 headers and body.

    KISS mode is pretty popular with some of the smarter software, but as far as
    I can tell, the smarter software is mostly Windoze or Linux (maybe you can recompile the Linux stuff for OS-X). If you are only interested in KISS
    mode, a KISS mode only TNC like the TNC-X can be a very inexpensive alternative. But if you need full capability, you are either going to have
    to find something at a hamfest (getting harder all the time) or pay the long dollar.

    I would be careful about some of the less expensive TNCs however. Many are really APRS-only. The TNC-X seems to be an exception in that it is an
    actual TNC, but KISS only and somewhat limited. But it at least does do regular packet, and it is a fraction of the price of a TNC-2.

    ..


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