• Packet on 20 Meters

    From Fred McKenzie@fmmck@aol.com to alt.ham-radio.packet on Mon May 5 18:20:18 2014
    From Newsgroup: alt.ham-radio.packet

    It was fairly easy to get my old PK-232 working on VHF. However, HF
    packet seems to be more critical. So far, the only band I've heard what sounds like packet, is 20 Meters. According to on-line articles, there
    should be packet on 14.105 MHz with the radio set for LSB. I could hear packet-like sounds there, but nothing would decode.

    While tuning around the frequency, I noticed that the PK-232 tuning
    indicator suddenly sprang to life when tuning higher, and data started appearing on the computer screen. There were numerous stations there, including some nodes. It looks like the ideal dial setting is 14.10546
    MHz. I was able to connect to myself via one of the other stations.

    Can someone enlighten me about tuning in packet on 20 Meters? I found a mention on the web of a 2100 Hz offset for LSB, but 14,105,460 minus
    2,100 is 14.10336 MHz, also an odd frequency. (The radio appears to be
    about 20 Hz off at 20 MHz.)

    Fred
    K4DII
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  • From mitchwinkle@mitchwinkle@gmail.com to alt.ham-radio.packet on Tue May 6 15:27:53 2014
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    Fred,

    HF packet is done with a 200 Hz shift and if you are using a soundcard modem, use 900 Hz and 1100 Hz as your two values. These are audio modulation shifts like RTTY, not a input/output frequency split like a repeater.

    Keep tuning about until you read clear text as you have done. Lock your VFO and see if anyone is actually chatting or if it's just traffic. Likely the latter.

    Most chatting is done on PSK these days. It's much more useful for that type of activity. Google "PSK31 frequencies" to find the hangouts. Good ops and some FB DX to be had most any time of day or night.

    Mitch
    AC4IY
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  • From Fred McKenzie@fmmck@aol.com to alt.ham-radio.packet on Wed May 7 01:42:46 2014
    From Newsgroup: alt.ham-radio.packet

    In article <f7114461-6dac-4c2c-b3f0-17eb9705e9c1@googlegroups.com>,
    mitchwinkle@gmail.com wrote:

    Fred,

    HF packet is done with a 200 Hz shift and if you are using a soundcard modem,
    use 900 Hz and 1100 Hz as your two values. These are audio modulation shifts
    like RTTY, not a input/output frequency split like a repeater.

    Keep tuning about until you read clear text as you have done. Lock your VFO and see if anyone is actually chatting or if it's just traffic. Likely the latter.

    Most chatting is done on PSK these days. It's much more useful for that type
    of activity. Google "PSK31 frequencies" to find the hangouts. Good ops and some FB DX to be had most any time of day or night.

    Mitch-

    The articles that mentioned an offset referred to the center of the mark
    and space frequencies for a particular modem. The center for your sound
    card would be 1000 Hz. In the PK-232 manual I see that on HF Packet it
    uses 2110 and 2310 tones, for a center frequency of 2210 Hz.

    Reading about the offset, I understood the objective was to add the
    center audio frequency to the radio's dial frequency for Lower Sideband.
    So a 14.105 center frequency would require the receiver to be tuned to
    14.106 for your sound card modem, or 14.10721 for a PK-232.

    Working backwards, the stations I heard when tuned to 14.10546 should
    have been centered at 14.10325. I suspect they were actually centered
    at 14.10300. The combined error in my receiver and the very old
    PK-232's tones may account for the difference. Trying a different
    receiver and calibrating the PK-232 may be good ideas. For now I will
    follow your advice and tune for best reception.

    I would like to learn more about PSK31, but that is not one of the modes
    of my old PK-232 modem.

    Fred
    K4DII
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