• BPL endorsed by FCC, another threat to HF ham radio

    From opcom@eccm@swbell.net to alt.ham-radio.hf,alt.ham-radio.ssb,rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors,alt.ham-radio.packet,rec.radio.amateur.dx on Thu Sep 25 00:28:54 2003
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    This was posted to ARLI, I don't know how many subscribe, but in spite of the numerous comments against BPL (transmitting wideband internet data over power lines, which will destroy the HF radio spectrum), the FCC seems disposed
    to encourage it anyway. evil! evil! just look up BPL on the web. The noise from the radiated signals trashed the ham bands thoroughly.

    -------------------

    From:
    Amateur Radio Station N0JAA <N0JAA@aol.com>
    4:00 PM

    Subject:
    [ARLI] FCC Commissioner's Comments Concerning BPL
    To:
    bvarc@clarc.org, clarc@clarc.org, ARLI@topica.com




    The following is a transcript from a recent speech given by FCC Commissioner Kathleen Q. Abernathy at the United PowerLine
    Council's annual conference regarding BPL. It seems that she is all for it. It also seems that BPL is going to become a reality, regardless
    of what ARRL, the military, or anyone else says. As usual, big industry wins over everyone else because they have the money.

    This is from today's FCC Digest.

    Paul, N0JAA

    ----------------------


    Reaching Broadband Nirvana
    United PowerLine Council Annual Conference Remarks of Commissioner Kathleen Q. Abernathy
    September 22, 2003 (As prepared for delivery)


    Thank you very much for inviting me to speak with you. I am very excited about broadband-over-powerline technology. I
    have seen it in action, and I believe it has a very bright future. It is a real honor to be your keynote speaker at this
    important juncture for BPL.

    As a regulator, I am keenly interested in BPL technology for a number of reasons. One of my central objectives as an FCC commissioner is to facilitate the deployment of broadband services to all Americans. I also fundamentally
    believe that the FCC can best promote consumer welfare by relying on market forces, rather than heavy-handed regulation. The development of BPL networks will serve both of these key goals. It will not only bring broadband to
    previously unserved communities, but the introduction of a new broadband pipeline into the home will foster the kind of competitive marketplace that will eventually enable the Commission to let go of the regulatory reins. I
    want consumers to have a choice of multiple, facilities-based providers, including not only cable and DSL, but also powerline, wireless, and satellite services. Such a robustly competitive and diversified marketplace is
    something I would call broadband Nirvana. We will not get there overnight, but the continuing development of BPL technology is a major step forward.

    While the long-term objective is a robustly competitive marketplace that is free of regulatory distortions, a more immediate question is: What should the FCC do to help foster such an environment? Sticking with my Nirvana
    metaphor, I guess the question would be, what is the path to enlightenment?

    I believe the answer, in short, is regulatory restraint. It is tempting for regulators to take every new technology or service that comes along and apply the same rules that govern incumbent services. After all, regulatory
    parity and a level playing field are intuitively appealing concepts. But I believe that it would be a huge mistake to carry forward legacy regulations whenever new technology platforms are established. Many of our regulations
    are premised on the absence of competition, and when that rationale is eroded, we must not reflexively hold on to regulations that no longer serve their intended purpose. In fact, many of our old rules not only become
    unnecessary as markets evolve, but they can be fatal to new services that need room to breathe.

    The Nascent Services Doctrine applying more stringent regulations to wireline providers at a minimum must be reconsidered. As other platforms, including BPL and wireless, become more widely available, that will further
    undermine the justification for regulating incumbent LECs broadband services as if they were the only available offerings. When the Commission completes this rulemaking, I expect that we will eliminate many existing rules and
    substantially modify others; the central question is the degree of regulation that will remain during the transition to a more robustly competitive market.

    Finally, it is important to recognize that although the emergence of new platforms like BPL will eliminate the need for many competition-related regulations, other types of regulation may well remain necessary. For example, the
    FCC must implement public policy goals unrelated to competition, or even at odds with competition. Universal service and access for persons with disabilities are examples of this kind of regulation. These public policy goals
    generally should be applied to all service providers, to the extent permitted by the Communications Act. The FCC also must intervene to prevent competitors from imposing externalities on one another and to protect consumers
    where market failures are identified. Although, as I have noted, the Commission was right to refrain from imposing heavy-handed price and service-quality regulations on PCS services when the were introduced, it was also right
    to adopt strict interference rules to prevent competitors from externalizing their costs. The same principle will apply to BPL. They key point is that, while some degree of regulation is both inevitable and desirable, we
    should ensure that it is narrowly tailored to the particular governmental interests at stake. I appreciate the opportunity to share these thoughts with you, and I would be happy to answer a few questions if we have time.


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  • From kelly@kelly@dvol.com (Brian Kelly) to alt.ham-radio.hf,alt.ham-radio.ssb,rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors,alt.ham-radio.packet,rec.radio.amateur.dx on Thu Sep 25 01:31:29 2003
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    opcom <eccm@swbell.net> wrote in message news:<3F725188.5F1CDE25@swbell.net>...
    This was posted to ARLI, I don't know how many subscribe, but in spite of the numerous comments against BPL (transmitting wideband internet data over power lines, which will destroy the HF radio spectrum), the FCC seems disposed
    to encourage it anyway. evil! evil! just look up BPL on the web. The noise from the radiated signals trashed the ham bands thoroughly.

    -------------------

    From:
    Amateur Radio Station N0JAA <N0JAA@aol.com>
    4:00 PM

    Subject:
    [ARLI] FCC Commissioner's Comments Concerning BPL
    To:
    bvarc@clarc.org, clarc@clarc.org, ARLI@topica.com




    The following is a transcript from a recent speech given by FCC Commissioner Kathleen Q. Abernathy at the United PowerLine
    Council's annual conference regarding BPL. It seems that she is all for it. It also seems that BPL is going to become a reality, regardless
    of what ARRL, the military, or anyone else says. As usual, big industry wins over everyone else because they have the money.

    This is from today's FCC Digest.

    Paul, N0JAA

    One FCC commissioner spouting off at an industry gathering is not
    regulation or law. The warmups for the '04 elections are well under
    way, this gambit was as likely as not a prelude to tapping the
    industry for campaign contributions. She didn't say a thing Powell and
    others have not stated previously. Don't sweat it, it's more spurious
    emissions and the battle against BPL battle remains on course.

    w3rv
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  • From BPL@bpl@hotmail.org to alt.ham-radio.hf,alt.ham-radio.ssb,rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors,alt.ham-radio.packet,rec.radio.amateur.dx on Thu Sep 25 15:54:14 2003
    From Newsgroup: alt.ham-radio.ssb

    WE HAVE GOT HURRY UP AND FIND A WAY TO GET THIS STUPID
    BITCH'S ATTENTION!

    They are obviously ignoring all the comments!

    The following is a transcript from a recent speech given by FCC Commissioner Kathleen Q. Abernathy at the United PowerLine
    Council's annual conference regarding BPL. It seems that she is all for it. It also seems that BPL is going to become a reality, regardless
    of what ARRL, the military, or anyone else says. As usual, big industry wins over everyone else because they have the money.

    This is from today's FCC Digest.

    Paul, N0JAA

    ----------------------


    Reaching Broadband Nirvana
    United PowerLine Council Annual Conference Remarks of Commissioner Kathleen Q. Abernathy
    September 22, 2003 (As prepared for delivery)


    Thank you very much for inviting me to speak with you. I am very excited about broadband-over-powerline technology. I
    have seen it in action, and I believe it has a very bright future. It is a real honor to be your keynote speaker at this
    important juncture for BPL.

    As a regulator, I am keenly interested in BPL technology for a number of reasons. One of my central objectives as an FCC commissioner is to facilitate the deployment of broadband services to all Americans. I also fundamentally
    believe that the FCC can best promote consumer welfare by relying on market forces, rather than heavy-handed regulation. The development of BPL networks will serve both of these key goals. It will not only bring broadband to
    previously unserved communities, but the introduction of a new broadband pipeline into the home will foster the kind of competitive marketplace that will eventually enable the Commission to let go of the regulatory reins. I
    want consumers to have a choice of multiple, facilities-based providers, including not only cable and DSL, but also powerline, wireless, and satellite services. Such a robustly competitive and diversified marketplace is
    something I would call broadband Nirvana. We will not get there overnight, but the continuing development of BPL technology is a major step forward.

    While the long-term objective is a robustly competitive marketplace that is free of regulatory distortions, a more immediate question is: What should the FCC do to help foster such an environment? Sticking with my Nirvana
    metaphor, I guess the question would be, what is the path to enlightenment?

    I believe the answer, in short, is regulatory restraint. It is tempting for regulators to take every new technology or service that comes along and apply the same rules that govern incumbent services. After all, regulatory
    parity and a level playing field are intuitively appealing concepts. But I believe that it would be a huge mistake to carry forward legacy regulations whenever new technology platforms are established. Many of our regulations
    are premised on the absence of competition, and when that rationale is eroded, we must not reflexively hold on to regulations that no longer serve their intended purpose. In fact, many of our old rules not only become
    unnecessary as markets evolve, but they can be fatal to new services that need room to breathe.

    The Nascent Services Doctrine applying more stringent regulations to wireline providers at a minimum must be reconsidered. As other platforms, including BPL and wireless, become more widely available, that will further
    undermine the justification for regulating incumbent LECs broadband services as if they were the only available offerings. When the Commission completes this rulemaking, I expect that we will eliminate many existing rules and
    substantially modify others; the central question is the degree of regulation that will remain during the transition to a more robustly competitive market.

    Finally, it is important to recognize that although the emergence of new platforms like BPL will eliminate the need for many competition-related regulations, other types of regulation may well remain necessary. For example, the
    FCC must implement public policy goals unrelated to competition, or even at odds with competition. Universal service and access for persons with disabilities are examples of this kind of regulation. These public policy goals
    generally should be applied to all service providers, to the extent permitted by the Communications Act. The FCC also must intervene to prevent competitors from imposing externalities on one another and to protect consumers
    where market failures are identified. Although, as I have noted, the Commission was right to refrain from imposing heavy-handed price and service-quality regulations on PCS services when the were introduced, it was also right
    to adopt strict interference rules to prevent competitors from externalizing their costs. The same principle will apply to BPL. They key point is that, while some degree of regulation is both inevitable and desirable, we
    should ensure that it is narrowly tailored to the particular governmental interests at stake. I appreciate the opportunity to share these thoughts with you, and I would be happy to answer a few questions if we have time.


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  • From Juan M.@jdmollan@REMOVEjuno.comt to alt.ham-radio.hf,alt.ham-radio.ssb,rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors,alt.ham-radio.packet,rec.radio.amateur.dx on Sat Sep 27 00:19:03 2003
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    The FCC have caved into the BM (Big Money) Boys on nearly every other issue. This doesn't surprise me.


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  • From Jim@barrie@eos.net to alt.ham-radio.hf,alt.ham-radio.ssb,rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors,alt.ham-radio.packet,rec.radio.amateur.dx on Sun Sep 28 23:14:49 2003
    From Newsgroup: alt.ham-radio.ssb

    Write your congressman today!
    http://www.house.gov/writerep/

    From: opcom <eccm@swbell.net>
    Organization: echo charlie charlie mike at swbell dot net
    Newsgroups: alt.ham-radio.hf,alt.ham-radio.ssb,rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors,alt.ham-radio
    .packet,rec.radio.amateur.dx
    Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 00:28:54 GMT
    Subject: BPL endorsed by FCC, another threat to HF ham radio

    This was posted to ARLI, I don't know how many subscribe, but in spite of the numerous comments against BPL (transmitting wideband internet data over power lines, which will destroy the HF radio spectrum), the FCC seems disposed
    to encourage it anyway. evil! evil! just look up BPL on the web. The noise from the radiated signals trashed the ham bands thoroughly.

    -------------------

    From:
    Amateur Radio Station N0JAA <N0JAA@aol.com>
    4:00 PM

    Subject:
    [ARLI] FCC Commissioner's Comments Concerning BPL
    To:
    bvarc@clarc.org, clarc@clarc.org, ARLI@topica.com




    The following is a transcript from a recent speech given by FCC Commissioner Kathleen Q. Abernathy at the United PowerLine
    Council's annual conference regarding BPL. It seems that she is all for it. It
    also seems that BPL is going to become a reality, regardless
    of what ARRL, the military, or anyone else says. As usual, big industry wins over everyone else because they have the money.

    This is from today's FCC Digest.

    Paul, N0JAA

    ----------------------


    Reaching Broadband Nirvana
    United PowerLine Council Annual Conference Remarks of Commissioner Kathleen Q.
    Abernathy
    September 22, 2003 (As prepared for delivery)


    Thank you very much for inviting me to speak with you. I am very excited about
    broadband-over-powerline technology. I
    have seen it in action, and I believe it has a very bright future. It is a real honor to be your keynote speaker at this
    important juncture for BPL.

    As a regulator, I am keenly interested in BPL technology for a number of reasons. One of my central objectives as an FCC commissioner is to facilitate
    the deployment of broadband services to all Americans. I also fundamentally believe that the FCC can best promote consumer welfare by relying on market forces, rather than heavy-handed regulation. The development of BPL networks will serve both of these key goals. It will not only bring broadband to previously unserved communities, but the introduction of a new broadband pipeline into the home will foster the kind of competitive marketplace that will eventually enable the Commission to let go of the regulatory reins. I want consumers to have a choice of multiple, facilities-based providers, including not only cable and DSL, but also powerline, wireless, and satellite
    services. Such a robustly competitive and diversified marketplace is something I would call broadband Nirvana. We will not get there overnight, but the continuing development of BPL technology is a major step forward.

    While the long-term objective is a robustly competitive marketplace that is free of regulatory distortions, a more immediate question is: What should the
    FCC do to help foster such an environment? Sticking with my Nirvana
    metaphor, I guess the question would be, what is the path to enlightenment?

    I believe the answer, in short, is regulatory restraint. It is tempting for regulators to take every new technology or service that comes along and apply
    the same rules that govern incumbent services. After all, regulatory
    parity and a level playing field are intuitively appealing concepts. But I believe that it would be a huge mistake to carry forward legacy regulations whenever new technology platforms are established. Many of our regulations are premised on the absence of competition, and when that rationale is eroded, we must not reflexively hold on to regulations that no longer serve their intended purpose. In fact, many of our old rules not only become unnecessary as markets evolve, but they can be fatal to new services that need
    room to breathe.

    The Nascent Services Doctrine applying more stringent regulations to wireline providers at a minimum must be reconsidered. As other platforms, including BPL and wireless, become more widely available, that will further
    undermine the justification for regulating incumbent LECs broadband services as if they were the only available offerings. When the Commission completes this rulemaking, I expect that we will eliminate many existing rules and substantially modify others; the central question is the degree of regulation
    that will remain during the transition to a more robustly competitive market.

    Finally, it is important to recognize that although the emergence of new platforms like BPL will eliminate the need for many competition-related regulations, other types of regulation may well remain necessary. For example,
    the
    FCC must implement public policy goals unrelated to competition, or even at odds with competition. Universal service and access for persons with disabilities are examples of this kind of regulation. These public policy goals
    generally should be applied to all service providers, to the extent permitted
    by the Communications Act. The FCC also must intervene to prevent competitors
    from imposing externalities on one another and to protect consumers
    where market failures are identified. Although, as I have noted, the Commission was right to refrain from imposing heavy-handed price and service-quality regulations on PCS services when the were introduced, it was also right
    to adopt strict interference rules to prevent competitors from externalizing their costs. The same principle will apply to BPL. They key point is that, while some degree of regulation is both inevitable and desirable, we
    should ensure that it is narrowly tailored to the particular governmental interests at stake. I appreciate the opportunity to share these thoughts with you, and I would be happy to answer a few questions if we have time.


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  • From Robert Hawk@rhawk@cfl.rr.com to alt.ham-radio.hf,alt.ham-radio.ssb,rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors,alt.ham-radio.packet,rec.radio.amateur.dx on Mon Oct 13 19:43:17 2003
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    This should not be a problem, You are represented by the Omnipitent
    and SELF SERVING, ARRL.. BUT WAIT. They do NOT carry anywhere
    near as much clout with the FCC as they used to. OH WELL!!!!! <BFG>

    On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 00:28:54 GMT, opcom <eccm@swbell.net> wrote:

    This was posted to ARLI, I don't know how many subscribe, but in spite of the numerous comments against BPL (transmitting wideband internet data over power >lines, which will destroy the HF radio spectrum),

    Gee, their goes 20 meters with all those "California Killowatts"

    Gee, Their goes 160 meters with all the bootleg AM broadcast
    transmitters..

    Gee, there goes all those *ssholes with their Multi Killowatt 75 meter
    AM phone rigs Splattering 20 Khz either side of center..

    Glad they finally stuck it up the Anal HF groups *ass.


    Just my opinion..

    Bob


    the FCC seems disposed
    to encourage it anyway. evil! evil! just look up BPL on the web. The noise from the radiated signals trashed the ham bands thoroughly.

    -------------------

    From:
    Amateur Radio Station N0JAA <N0JAA@aol.com>
    4:00 PM

    Subject:
    [ARLI] FCC Commissioner's Comments Concerning BPL
    To:
    bvarc@clarc.org, clarc@clarc.org, ARLI@topica.com




    The following is a transcript from a recent speech given by FCC Commissioner Kathleen Q. Abernathy at the United PowerLine
    Council's annual conference regarding BPL. It seems that she is all for it. It also seems that BPL is going to become a reality, regardless
    of what ARRL, the military, or anyone else says. As usual, big industry wins over everyone else because they have the money.

    This is from today's FCC Digest.

    Paul, N0JAA

    ----------------------


    Reaching Broadband Nirvana
    United PowerLine Council Annual Conference Remarks of Commissioner Kathleen Q. Abernathy
    September 22, 2003 (As prepared for delivery)


    Thank you very much for inviting me to speak with you. I am very excited about broadband-over-powerline technology. I
    have seen it in action, and I believe it has a very bright future. It is a real honor to be your keynote speaker at this
    important juncture for BPL.

    As a regulator, I am keenly interested in BPL technology for a number of reasons. One of my central objectives as an FCC commissioner is to facilitate the deployment of broadband services to all Americans. I also fundamentally
    believe that the FCC can best promote consumer welfare by relying on market forces, rather than heavy-handed regulation. The development of BPL networks will serve both of these key goals. It will not only bring broadband to
    previously unserved communities, but the introduction of a new broadband pipeline into the home will foster the kind of competitive marketplace that will eventually enable the Commission to let go of the regulatory reins. I
    want consumers to have a choice of multiple, facilities-based providers, including not only cable and DSL, but also powerline, wireless, and satellite services. Such a robustly competitive and diversified marketplace is
    something I would call broadband Nirvana. We will not get there overnight, but the continuing development of BPL technology is a major step forward.

    While the long-term objective is a robustly competitive marketplace that is free of regulatory distortions, a more immediate question is: What should the FCC do to help foster such an environment? Sticking with my Nirvana
    metaphor, I guess the question would be, what is the path to enlightenment?

    I believe the answer, in short, is regulatory restraint. It is tempting for regulators to take every new technology or service that comes along and apply the same rules that govern incumbent services. After all, regulatory
    parity and a level playing field are intuitively appealing concepts. But I believe that it would be a huge mistake to carry forward legacy regulations whenever new technology platforms are established. Many of our regulations
    are premised on the absence of competition, and when that rationale is eroded, we must not reflexively hold on to regulations that no longer serve their intended purpose. In fact, many of our old rules not only become
    unnecessary as markets evolve, but they can be fatal to new services that need room to breathe.

    The Nascent Services Doctrine applying more stringent regulations to wireline providers at a minimum must be reconsidered. As other platforms, including BPL and wireless, become more widely available, that will further
    undermine the justification for regulating incumbent LECs broadband services as if they were the only available offerings. When the Commission completes this rulemaking, I expect that we will eliminate many existing rules and
    substantially modify others; the central question is the degree of regulation that will remain during the transition to a more robustly competitive market.

    Finally, it is important to recognize that although the emergence of new platforms like BPL will eliminate the need for many competition-related regulations, other types of regulation may well remain necessary. For example, the
    FCC must implement public policy goals unrelated to competition, or even at odds with competition. Universal service and access for persons with disabilities are examples of this kind of regulation. These public policy goals
    generally should be applied to all service providers, to the extent permitted by the Communications Act. The FCC also must intervene to prevent competitors from imposing externalities on one another and to protect consumers
    where market failures are identified. Although, as I have noted, the Commission was right to refrain from imposing heavy-handed price and service-quality regulations on PCS services when the were introduced, it was also right
    to adopt strict interference rules to prevent competitors from externalizing their costs. The same principle will apply to BPL. They key point is that, while some degree of regulation is both inevitable and desirable, we
    should ensure that it is narrowly tailored to the particular governmental interests at stake. I appreciate the opportunity to share these thoughts with you, and I would be happy to answer a few questions if we have time.


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  • From Dee D. Flint@deehays@qix.net to alt.ham-radio.hf,alt.ham-radio.ssb,rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors,alt.ham-radio.packet,rec.radio.amateur.dx on Wed Oct 15 22:11:32 2003
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    "Robert Hawk" <rhawk@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message news:4sulovodjef5iob3d9eucoect2rkpp1u8n@4ax.com...

    This should not be a problem, You are represented by the Omnipitent
    and SELF SERVING, ARRL.. BUT WAIT. They do NOT carry anywhere
    near as much clout with the FCC as they used to. OH WELL!!!!! <BFG>

    On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 00:28:54 GMT, opcom <eccm@swbell.net> wrote:

    This was posted to ARLI, I don't know how many subscribe, but in spite of
    the numerous comments against BPL (transmitting wideband internet data over power >lines, which will destroy the HF radio spectrum),

    Gee, their goes 20 meters with all those "California Killowatts"

    Gee, Their goes 160 meters with all the bootleg AM broadcast
    transmitters..

    Gee, there goes all those *ssholes with their Multi Killowatt 75 meter
    AM phone rigs Splattering 20 Khz either side of center..

    Glad they finally stuck it up the Anal HF groups *ass.


    Just my opinion..

    Bob


    Naturally you are fully aware that if BPL is implemented as the power
    companies would like to it will also trash significant VHF frequencies such
    as 6meters and 2meters plus the commercial FM radio and the lower channels
    on broadcast TV.

    Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

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