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A local non-licensed station in our town is creating havoc on our 10 meter nets. We've sent tapes and letters to the FCC but to no avail. His nightly drunken jamming stops all net activities and has forced us to shut down our
10 meter FM box as well.

Is there a schematic for a 9V battery operated device that would produce a white noise signal strong enough that if placed in the nearby vicinity of
the offending station, would prevent reception of all other signals? Yes, I know it's probably not legal but it's the only way we can think of to stop
the nightly jamming other then physically taking down his antennas which is impossible since he has pit bull dogs everywhere on his property.

Thanks for your help, Jim
techmci@yahoo.com


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Jamming a jammer is a very bad idea. Any kind of jamming can result in
arrest, prosecution, heavy fines, loss of equipment, and heavy prison time.

Contact your area ARRL Region Manager and advise him of the problem. Get
tape recordings of the jamming. Identify and photograph the person and his transmitting location.

In some states, legislation has been passed that allows local police to
arrest jammers. Check with your local police department.

"Jim Howard" <techmci@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:NjjNf.61904$PL5.10548@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...

A local non-licensed station in our town is creating havoc on our 10 meter >nets. We've sent tapes and letters to the FCC but to no avail. His nightly >drunken jamming stops all net activities and has forced us to shut down our >10 meter FM box as well.

Is there a schematic for a 9V battery operated device that would produce a white noise signal strong enough that if placed in the nearby vicinity of the offending station, would prevent reception of all other signals? Yes,
I know it's probably not legal but it's the only way we can think of to
stop the nightly jamming other then physically taking down his antennas which is impossible since he has pit bull dogs everywhere on his property.

Thanks for your help, Jim
techmci@yahoo.com

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On Wed, 01 Mar 2006 18:01:56 GMT
"lgadbois" <lgadbois@earthlink.net> wrote:

Jamming a jammer is a very bad idea. Any kind of jamming can result
in arrest, prosecution, heavy fines, loss of equipment, and heavy
prison time.

Contact your area ARRL Region Manager and advise him of the problem.
Get tape recordings of the jamming. Identify and photograph the
person and his transmitting location.

In some states, legislation has been passed that allows local police
to arrest jammers. Check with your local police department.

VERY GOOD ADVICE!

David, N1ZHE
--
Registered Linux User #297958
http://carney1979.blogspot.com/
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"Jim Howard" <techmci@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:NjjNf.61904$PL5.10548@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...

A local non-licensed station in our town is creating havoc on our 10 meter >nets. We've sent tapes and letters to the FCC but to no avail. His nightly >drunken jamming stops all net activities and has forced us to shut down our >10 meter FM box as well.

Is there a schematic for a 9V battery operated device that would produce a white noise signal strong enough that if placed in the nearby vicinity of the offending station, would prevent reception of all other signals? Yes,
I know it's probably not legal but it's the only way we can think of to
stop the nightly jamming other then physically taking down his antennas which is impossible since he has pit bull dogs everywhere on his property.

Thanks for your help, Jim
techmci@yahoo.com

No more Mr. Nice Guy.......
Simply take a set of pruners and cut the NEUTRAL wire to the house.
The resulting electrical fire will be rewarding, will stop the jamming and
more than likely destroy the radio he is using.
Heavy motors will stall (refridge) and the smaller items will get over voltage.
If the line is underground, simply toss the dogs some stuffed toys soaked
in Ether or Chloroform, enter the yard and loosen the neutral connections in the
breaker panel....works good too.
This guy is a shitbag, treat him like one.



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Surgical strike with suppressed rifle in .22lr by taking out his
coax/antenna.

Either that or nuke from orbit using AMSAT as a delivery vehicle.
:~P

Harry
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Don't take matters into your own hands !

send a short email to holling@fcc.gov

be brief, a few short sentences should do it.

jon

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It is best to exhaust all possibilities before taking things into your own hands.

That said, a HV transformer (Neon Sign transformer) with a 1" Spark Gap will lessen his entertainment by providing a 20 to 60 dB over S9 signal on his receiver.

This will also tend to stop his CB communications also.

The closer tot he offending station, the better. I am sure some of his neighbors will be glad to assist.

One lead to a metal screen, 1" spark gap between another lead to ground. Condensed version: Jacob's Ladder.

A Local TV repairman introduced this concept to the CB Community back in the 70s. I think he used a flyback transformer.

I know you probably won't be able to implement this for obvious reasons, but it did the job in the unregulated 70s.

David
KD4NUE
"Jim Howard" <techmci@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:NjjNf.61904$PL5.10548@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...

A local non-licensed station in our town is creating havoc on our 10 meter >nets. We've sent tapes and letters to the FCC but to no avail. His nightly >drunken jamming stops all net activities and has forced us to shut down our >10 meter FM box as well.

Is there a schematic for a 9V battery operated device that would produce a white noise signal strong enough that if placed in the nearby vicinity of the offending station, would prevent reception of all other signals? Yes,
I know it's probably not legal but it's the only way we can think of to
stop the nightly jamming other then physically taking down his antennas which is impossible since he has pit bull dogs everywhere on his property.

Thanks for your help, Jim
techmci@yahoo.com

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To take this 1 step further, you would need to have the following items:
1 - 12v battery
1 - small solar panel
1 - 12v Ford Ignition Coil (should be able to find in any car scrap yard)
1 - sm 12v relay (input coil voltage 1.0v - 3.0v) (output contacts that
can handle the momentary current draw from the batt to the ford coil)
2 - pieces of #18 ga solid wire (no jacket) (about 12" long)

What to do -
1] Attach 1 piece of the stiff wire straight up from the high voltage terminal (u might need to stuff part of an old ignition lead in there also
to make it fit), straight up, attach the other piece of bare wire to a close case ground screw, and run it parallel to the lead from the HV terminal.
They should be approx 2" apart and will make a good Jacobs Ladder.

2] Attach the 12v to the primary leads of the coil - make sure that you
go through the relay output contacts. A simple series circuit.

3] Attach the leads from the solar panel (make them longer if you have
to) to the input coil leads of the RELAY.

4] If you want you can mount everything on a piece of plywood approx 2
foot sq, except the solar panel.

5] Now find yourself a curve in the road close to the object location, mount the solar panel on the guard rail or telephone pole at the height of
the on coming head lights of all vehicles. (make sure you find a busy road) As each vehicle passes it should set off the coil momentarily and should
only radiate in a very small area. Since it will operate primarily in the darkness you friend will probably not be able to find it. You could cover
the other parts of the apparatus with a green cloth to hide it)

Have fun!

<dalite01@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:vtDNf.13987$Pv1.12919@bignews6.bellsouth.net...

It is best to exhaust all possibilities before taking things into your own hands.

That said, a HV transformer (Neon Sign transformer) with a 1" Spark Gap
will lessen his entertainment by providing a 20 to 60 dB over S9 signal
on his receiver.

This will also tend to stop his CB communications also.

The closer tot he offending station, the better. I am sure some of his neighbors will be glad to assist.

One lead to a metal screen, 1" spark gap between another lead to ground. Condensed version: Jacob's Ladder.

A Local TV repairman introduced this concept to the CB Community back in
the 70s. I think he used a flyback transformer.

I know you probably won't be able to implement this for obvious reasons,
but it did the job in the unregulated 70s.

David
KD4NUE
"Jim Howard" <techmci@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:NjjNf.61904$PL5.10548@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...

A local non-licensed station in our town is creating havoc on our 10 meter >>nets. We've sent tapes and letters to the FCC but to no avail. His nightly >>drunken jamming stops all net activities and has forced us to shut down >>our 10 meter FM box as well.

Is there a schematic for a 9V battery operated device that would produce
a white noise signal strong enough that if placed in the nearby vicinity
of the offending station, would prevent reception of all other signals?
Yes, I know it's probably not legal but it's the only way we can think of >> to stop the nightly jamming other then physically taking down his
antennas which is impossible since he has pit bull dogs everywhere on his >> property.

Thanks for your help, Jim
techmci@yahoo.com

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"Howard W3CQH" <hgorden@adelphia.net> wrote in message news:apidnWNXh-DZhZrZRVn-pA@adelphia.com...

To take this 1 step further, you would need to have the following items:
1 - 12v battery
1 - small solar panel
1 - 12v Ford Ignition Coil (should be able to find in any car scrap
yard)
1 - sm 12v relay (input coil voltage 1.0v - 3.0v) (output contacts that can handle the momentary current draw from the batt to the ford coil)
2 - pieces of #18 ga solid wire (no jacket) (about 12" long)

What to do -
1] Attach 1 piece of the stiff wire straight up from the high voltage terminal (u might need to stuff part of an old ignition lead in there also to make it fit), straight up, attach the other piece of bare wire to a
close case ground screw, and run it parallel to the lead from the HV terminal. They should be approx 2" apart and will make a good Jacobs
Ladder.

2] Attach the 12v to the primary leads of the coil - make sure that you go through the relay output contacts. A simple series circuit.

3] Attach the leads from the solar panel (make them longer if you have to) to the input coil leads of the RELAY.

4] If you want you can mount everything on a piece of plywood approx 2 foot sq, except the solar panel.

Howard...you are *CLUELESS* as to how ignition coils/systems work!
Here is a reminder......a Ignition Coil only provides a spark or pulse as
the
field collapses! you need to break it rapidly to get anything from it. It's real
apparent that you have never used this "circuit' before.
With a "W3" call you SHOULD know how transformers and AC/DC circuits work........


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Jam a Jammer? Do that and he wins. Simple tactic. Shoot the dogs, string him up by the coax - if he lives jam him with his own antenna!


"Jim Howard" <techmci@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:NjjNf.61904$PL5.10548@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...

A local non-licensed station in our town is creating havoc on our 10 meter >nets. We've sent tapes and letters to the FCC but to no avail. His nightly >drunken jamming stops all net activities and has forced us to shut down our >10 meter FM box as well.

Is there a schematic for a 9V battery operated device that would produce a white noise signal strong enough that if placed in the nearby vicinity of the offending station, would prevent reception of all other signals? Yes,
I know it's probably not legal but it's the only way we can think of to
stop the nightly jamming other then physically taking down his antennas which is impossible since he has pit bull dogs everywhere on his property.

Thanks for your help, Jim
techmci@yahoo.com

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I would prefer to use a sling shot and shoot a thin wire over his antenna
and just ground it.
simple.


"Jimmy Mac" <nospam@manicarcade.com> wrote in message news:44093eb6$0$58126$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...

Jam a Jammer? Do that and he wins. Simple tactic. Shoot the dogs, string

him

up by the coax - if he lives jam him with his own antenna!

"Jim Howard" <techmci@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:NjjNf.61904$PL5.10548@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...

A local non-licensed station in our town is creating havoc on our 10

meter

nets. We've sent tapes and letters to the FCC but to no avail. His

nightly

drunken jamming stops all net activities and has forced us to shut down

our

10 meter FM box as well.

Is there a schematic for a 9V battery operated device that would produce

a

white noise signal strong enough that if placed in the nearby vicinity

of

the offending station, would prevent reception of all other signals?

Yes,

I know it's probably not legal but it's the only way we can think of to stop the nightly jamming other then physically taking down his antennas which is impossible since he has pit bull dogs everywhere on his

property.

Thanks for your help, Jim
techmci@yahoo.com

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I'd Turn on my big honkin linear and play rap music over him!


"Merlin-7 KI4ILB" <merlin-7@sc.rr.com> wrote in message news:sNDOf.57386$%84.20486@tornado.southeast.rr.com...

I would prefer to use a sling shot and shoot a thin wire over his antenna
and just ground it.
simple.

"Jimmy Mac" <nospam@manicarcade.com> wrote in message news:44093eb6$0$58126$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...

Jam a Jammer? Do that and he wins. Simple tactic. Shoot the dogs, string

him

up by the coax - if he lives jam him with his own antenna!


"Jim Howard" <techmci@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:NjjNf.61904$PL5.10548@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...

A local non-licensed station in our town is creating havoc on our 10

meter

nets. We've sent tapes and letters to the FCC but to no avail. His

nightly

drunken jamming stops all net activities and has forced us to shut down

our

10 meter FM box as well.

Is there a schematic for a 9V battery operated device that would
produce

a

white noise signal strong enough that if placed in the nearby vicinity

of

the offending station, would prevent reception of all other signals?

Yes,

I know it's probably not legal but it's the only way we can think of to
stop the nightly jamming other then physically taking down his antennas
which is impossible since he has pit bull dogs everywhere on his

property.

Thanks for your help, Jim
techmci@yahoo.com

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We got him! The FCC finally did something!


February 22, 2006


Steve L. Wingate
168 Lakeside Drive
Corte Madera, CA 94925-1052


RE: Amateur Radio Extra Class K6TXH; Renewal and Vanity Call Sign
Application File #0002240798: Case Number 2002-2548


Dear Mr. Wingate:


By letter dated September 14, 2005, we notified you that the Wireless Telecommunications Bureau, as a result of complaints filed against your station, set aside the grant of your application for renewal and for vanity call sign K6TXH. Our letter notified you that the Wireless Bureau referred
your application to the Enforcement Bureau for review. As a result of continuing complaints against the operation of your station, more
information is needed in order to make a decision on your application and to determine whether you are qualified to hold an Amateur Radio Service
license.


On April 26, 2004, you were issued a Warning Notice regarding deliberate interference on the 75-meter amateur band, including jamming, making threats
to other operators and to law enforcement officers, and broadcasts in which
you appeared incoherent. By letter dated April 29, 2004, you responded, apologized for the infractions and stated that you would avoid such
operation in the future. Copies of the letters are enclosed.


On November 24, 2004, you were issued another Warning Notice as a result of operation of your station on November 11, 2004, in which you again
threatened various persons and appeared to be incoherent or seriously
impaired. Our November 24, 2004, letter included recordings of your November 11, 2004, transmissions. You responded by letter received December 23, 2004, stating that you had no recollection of making such transmissions. You
further stated that on the date of the recording, you were taking pain medication which apparently reacted with alcohol. Again you assured us that
you would comply with Commission rules in the future.


The Enforcement Bureau has continued to receive complaints about the
operation of your station since January 2005. Not all of the complaints are valid, and some of the recordings are fake. However, the complaints and recordings that are valid show the same violations for which you were warned twice, and for which you twice gave assurances of future compliance. We have discussed these complaints and many have been furnished to you. The
recordings referenced in the complaints will be made available to you upon request.


Complaints received about your station constituted the basis of the
set-aside of your renewal application by the Wireless Bureau, and now
warrant enforcement action against you, which will include license
revocation or monetary forfeiture (fine) or both. Fines normally range from $7,500 to $10,000.


Your responses to letters from the Enforcement Bureau and the continuing complaints, including recordings, along with telephone conversations with
you, however, indicate that by your own admission you have a serious problem with an impairment that prevents you from maintaining control over your station. Therefore, to avoid enforcement action against your license, we are offering you the opportunity to voluntarily relinquish your operating privileges for two years so that this problem may be addressed. If you agree
to this solution by signing below, you are agreeing to refrain from
operating any Amateur radio equipment for the two year period ending at midnight on March 1, 2008, and to provide documentation during that interval that you are seeking treatment for your impairment.


If you sign this agreement, return please keep a copy for your records and return the original, along with your license, to the letterhead address. You are advised that should you decline to accept this opportunity to resolve
this matter, we will proceed with enforcement action against your license.


Please call me at 717-338-2502 if you have any questions.

_______________________________________

Steve L. Wingate
Date:
cc: FCC Western Regional Director


"


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Send a $25.00 donation in his name with his return address to the Mormons
and Jehovah's Witnesses...

He'll be answering the door so much he wont have time to jam ya...



"Backfire Bob" <Backfire@twicepipes.org> wrote in message news:kNsNf.18147$2O6.5813@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...

"Jim Howard" <techmci@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:NjjNf.61904$PL5.10548@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...

A local non-licensed station in our town is creating havoc on our 10

meter

nets. We've sent tapes and letters to the FCC but to no avail. His

nightly

drunken jamming stops all net activities and has forced us to shut down

our

10 meter FM box as well.

Is there a schematic for a 9V battery operated device that would produce

a

white noise signal strong enough that if placed in the nearby vicinity

of

the offending station, would prevent reception of all other signals?

Yes,

I know it's probably not legal but it's the only way we can think of to stop the nightly jamming other then physically taking down his antennas which is impossible since he has pit bull dogs everywhere on his

property.

Thanks for your help, Jim
techmci@yahoo.com

No more Mr. Nice Guy.......
Simply take a set of pruners and cut the NEUTRAL wire to the house.
The resulting electrical fire will be rewarding, will stop the jamming and more than likely destroy the radio he is using.
Heavy motors will stall (refridge) and the smaller items will get over voltage.
If the line is underground, simply toss the dogs some stuffed toys soaked
in Ether or Chloroform, enter the yard and loosen the neutral connections

in

the
breaker panel....works good too.
This guy is a shitbag, treat him like one.

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"Bowser" <usually@home.org> wrote in message news:ovnQf.60399$Ug4.21555@dukeread12...

Send a $25.00 donation in his name with his return address to the Mormons
and Jehovah's Witnesses...

He'll be answering the door so much he wont have time to jam ya...

LOL!


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Send a $25.00 donation in his name with his return address to the

Mormons

and Jehovah's Witnesses...

He'll be answering the door so much he wont have time to jam ya...

LOL!

At dinner time anyway....

maybe he will starve..????


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Theres obviously the sharp-shooter/marksman method!!

No, its not what you think. Someone grabs a decent rifle, and taking
very careful aim, can target the masts, and antennas of the offending
station and take them out. This will at least cost him some money in
replacing the stuff. Although it's probably illegal to discharge a
firearm in city limits in some communities. :-) Oh well; it was just a thought!

Keep on the trail of recording the jams, also get a group of people
together and make sure you can triangulate everything down to his
location so that there is absolutely no disputing his jamming practices.

If indeed he is on the 10 meter bands then he potentially is operating completely illegally if he has no license, and if he does have a license
then there is the forfeiture issues along with hefty fines, and possible
jail times for the repeated infractions.

Then local authorities need to be notified as well, and you'll need to
see if there is any applicable local laws against the practice. The
local FCC field office needs to be kept abreast of all activity and
attempts to deal with the individual and the situation as a whole. More
than likely, at some point an FCC field office rep will be coming out to
pay the individual a very special visit. I hope it doesn't turn out to
be another Jack Garrison like case for you!

Cheers
(a licensed ham - call letters withheld to stop the spamming)

Jim Howard wrote:

A local non-licensed station in our town is creating havoc on our 10 meter nets. We've sent tapes and letters to the FCC but to no avail. His nightly drunken jamming stops all net activities and has forced us to shut down our 10 meter FM box as well.

Is there a schematic for a 9V battery operated device that would produce a white noise signal strong enough that if placed in the nearby vicinity of the offending station, would prevent reception of all other signals? Yes, I know it's probably not legal but it's the only way we can think of to stop the nightly jamming other then physically taking down his antennas which is impossible since he has pit bull dogs everywhere on his property.

Thanks for your help, Jim
techmci@yahoo.com

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Whatever you do, be sure not to draw straws to see who is given the honour od going out some dark night with a pair of large diagonal
pliers to cut his co-ax. miki.


"Joe Schmoe" <joeschmoe@noisponthe.net> wrote in message news:12vo1ecne6hf432@corp.supernews.com...

Theres obviously the sharp-shooter/marksman method!!

No, its not what you think. Someone grabs a decent rifle, and taking
very careful aim, can target the masts, and antennas of the offending
station and take them out. This will at least cost him some money in replacing the stuff. Although it's probably illegal to discharge a
firearm in city limits in some communities. :-) Oh well; it was just a thought!

Keep on the trail of recording the jams, also get a group of people
together and make sure you can triangulate everything down to his
location so that there is absolutely no disputing his jamming practices.

If indeed he is on the 10 meter bands then he potentially is operating completely illegally if he has no license, and if he does have a license
then there is the forfeiture issues along with hefty fines, and possible
jail times for the repeated infractions.

Then local authorities need to be notified as well, and you'll need to
see if there is any applicable local laws against the practice. The
local FCC field office needs to be kept abreast of all activity and
attempts to deal with the individual and the situation as a whole. More
than likely, at some point an FCC field office rep will be coming out to
pay the individual a very special visit. I hope it doesn't turn out to
be another Jack Garrison like case for you!

Cheers
(a licensed ham - call letters withheld to stop the spamming)

Jim Howard wrote:

A local non-licensed station in our town is creating havoc on our 10

meter

nets. We've sent tapes and letters to the FCC but to no avail. His

nightly

drunken jamming stops all net activities and has forced us to shut down

our

10 meter FM box as well.

Is there a schematic for a 9V battery operated device that would produce

a

white noise signal strong enough that if placed in the nearby vicinity

of

the offending station, would prevent reception of all other signals?

Yes, I

know it's probably not legal but it's the only way we can think of to

stop

the nightly jamming other then physically taking down his antennas which

is

impossible since he has pit bull dogs everywhere on his property.

Thanks for your help, Jim
techmci@yahoo.com

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On Mar 17, 2:05 pm, "miki" <k35...@direct.ca> wrote:

Whatever you do, be sure not to draw straws to see who is given the honour od going out some dark night with a pair of large diagonal
pliers to cut his co-ax. miki.

Just a simple straight pin through the coax should be sufficient.

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"billie0w" <bilwalsh@swbell.net> wrote in message news:1174269348.299229.72720@p15g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...

On Mar 17, 2:05 pm, "miki" <k35...@direct.ca> wrote:

Whatever you do, be sure not to draw straws to see who is
given
the honour od going out some dark night with a pair of large diagonal
pliers to cut his co-ax. miki.

Just a simple straight pin through the coax should be sufficient.

Coax.....why bother. If your going to cut anything, you cut the NEUTRAL wire to the house.
Then wait for the fireworks to begin hahahahahaha...



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On Mar 18, 9:37 pm, "Porgy Tirebiter" <bit...@gmail.com> wrote:

"billie0w" <bilwa...@swbell.net> wrote in message

news:1174269348.299229.72720@p15g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...> On Mar 17, 2:05 pm, "miki" <k35...@direct.ca> wrote:

Whatever you do, be sure not to draw straws to see who is
given
the honour od going out some dark night with a pair of large diagonal
pliers to cut his co-ax. miki.

Just a simple straight pin through the coax should be sufficient.

Coax.....why bother. If your going to cut anything, you cut the NEUTRAL wire to the house.
Then wait for the fireworks to begin hahahahahaha...

Well, just for starters, next time he keys up his radio it blows the
finals. Working into a dead short don't you know.. He automatically
figures it's something in his radio, of course, so he gets out his
backup and tries again. Blows the finals in that one also. Might take
three or four rigs before he figures out it's his coax and has to
replace it all. You know, that ole thing about a needle in a haystack, well..... coax in this case.

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"billie0w" <bilwalsh@swbell.net> wrote in message news:1174352059.914305.70110@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...

On Mar 18, 9:37 pm, "Porgy Tirebiter" <bit...@gmail.com> wrote:

"billie0w" <bilwa...@swbell.net> wrote in message

news:1174269348.299229.72720@p15g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...> On Mar 17,
2:05 pm, "miki" <k35...@direct.ca> wrote:

Whatever you do, be sure not to draw straws to see who is
given
the honour od going out some dark night with a pair of large diagonal
pliers to cut his co-ax. miki.

Just a simple straight pin through the coax should be sufficient.

Coax.....why bother. If your going to cut anything, you cut the NEUTRAL
wire
to the house.
Then wait for the fireworks to begin hahahahahaha...

Well, just for starters, next time he keys up his radio it blows the
finals. Working into a dead short don't you know.. He automatically
figures it's something in his radio, of course, so he gets out his
backup and tries again. Blows the finals in that one also. Might take
three or four rigs before he figures out it's his coax and has to
replace it all. You know, that ole thing about a needle in a haystack, well..... coax in this case.

<SIGH> it REALLY doesn't work that way in real life. a shorted feedline
wont always blow the finals.A fairly smart operator will notice the signals are weaker, a lot of transmitters throttle back into high VSWR's.
AND..if the short is close to a 1/4 wave the part of the cable will actually load up just fine.You see (if you knew transmission line theory) it's NOT a "dead short"..but actually a complex transmission line. DC wise..yes..its a short..but then again SO ARE A LOT OF SHUNT FED ANTENNAS....Modern transmission line is SOLID core...look up Belden 9914 or LMR-400..can you
push a straight pin thru that?

Try to learn some real theory.....you might be surprised.



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"Porgy Tirebiter" <biteme@gmail.com> wrote in news:RHmLh.8413$yW.3749@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net:

"billie0w" <bilwalsh@swbell.net> wrote in message news:1174269348.299229.72720@p15g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...

On Mar 17, 2:05 pm, "miki" <k35...@direct.ca> wrote:

Whatever you do, be sure not to draw straws to see who
is
given
the honour od going out some dark night with a pair of large
diagonal pliers to cut his co-ax. miki.

Just a simple straight pin through the coax should be sufficient.

Coax.....why bother. If your going to cut anything, you cut the
NEUTRAL wire to the house.
Then wait for the fireworks to begin hahahahahaha...

I heard a tale once where some CBers attached a rope to a man's tower and
to the trailer hitch on his pickup, then put a bag of dogshit on his
porch and knocked on the door. He opened it, put out the fire while they jeered then when they drove off, he jumped in the pickup and pulled his
tower down.
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"billie0w" <bilwalsh@swbell.net> wrote in news:1174352059.914305.70110@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com:

On Mar 18, 9:37 pm, "Porgy Tirebiter" <bit...@gmail.com> wrote:

"billie0w" <bilwa...@swbell.net> wrote in message

news:1174269348.299229.72720@p15g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...> On Mar
17, 2:05 pm, "miki" <k35...@direct.ca> wrote:

Whatever you do, be sure not to draw straws to see
who is
given
the honour od going out some dark night with a pair of large
diagonal pliers to cut his co-ax. miki.

Just a simple straight pin through the coax should be sufficient.

Coax.....why bother. If your going to cut anything, you cut the
NEUTRAL wire to the house.
Then wait for the fireworks to begin hahahahahaha...

Well, just for starters, next time he keys up his radio it blows the
finals. Working into a dead short don't you know.. He automatically
figures it's something in his radio, of course, so he gets out his
backup and tries again. Blows the finals in that one also. Might take
three or four rigs before he figures out it's his coax and has to
replace it all. You know, that ole thing about a needle in a haystack, well..... coax in this case.

Actually, most GOOD radios will just shut down into the bad load. My
antenna analyzer would quickly find the pin.
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On Mar 19, 8:45 pm, "Porgy Tirebiter" <bit...@gmail.com> wrote:

"billie0w" <bilwa...@swbell.net> wrote in message

news:1174352059.914305.70110@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...

On Mar 18, 9:37 pm, "Porgy Tirebiter" <bit...@gmail.com> wrote:

"billie0w" <bilwa...@swbell.net> wrote in message

news:1174269348.299229.72720@p15g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...> On Mar 17,
2:05 pm, "miki" <k35...@direct.ca> wrote:

Whatever you do, be sure not to draw straws to see who is >> >> given
the honour od going out some dark night with a pair of large diagonal >> >> pliers to cut his co-ax. miki.

Just a simple straight pin through the coax should be sufficient.

Coax.....why bother. If your going to cut anything, you cut the NEUTRAL
wire
to the house.
Then wait for the fireworks to begin hahahahahaha...

Well, just for starters, next time he keys up his radio it blows the finals. Working into a dead short don't you know.. He automatically
figures it's something in his radio, of course, so he gets out his
backup and tries again. Blows the finals in that one also. Might take
three or four rigs before he figures out it's his coax and has to
replace it all. You know, that ole thing about a needle in a haystack, well..... coax in this case.

<SIGH> it REALLY doesn't work that way in real life. a shorted feedline
wont always blow the finals.A fairly smart operator will notice the signals are weaker, a lot of transmitters throttle back into high VSWR's.
AND..if the short is close to a 1/4 wave the part of the cable will actually load up just fine.You see (if you knew transmission line theory) it's NOT a "dead short"..but actually a complex transmission line. DC wise..yes..its a short..but then again SO ARE A LOT OF SHUNT FED ANTENNAS....Modern transmission line is SOLID core...look up Belden 9914 or LMR-400..can you push a straight pin thru that?

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Guys,
The problem with a SINGLE straight pin through the coax is
just as described above, it can be real difficult to "short" RF (and
9914 or LMR-400 are IMMUNE to straight pins), 'course this neanderthal
is prob'ly just usin' RG-8U. Multiple pins in the same coax, however,
can cause real problems, esp. with the older rigs/amplifiers. A close
friend of mine tried this once, and the results (on a deserving mark)
were SPECTACULAR. His mother tried for half a day to raise him on an
ever fading radio, until she burned up the radio and the[illegal] (bi-
linear) amplifier. 'course that was in the early 90's, the coax was
regular RG-8U, and the radio didn't "throttle back" when the final
amplifier "saw" the mismatched load.'Course ya gotta make sure to
leave NO TRACES of having been there, and the pit bulls pose a problem
with access to the feedline(s).

These days (being a licensed Amateur Radio Operator), (my
friend became one, too), I'd prob'ly just go the legal route, with
special emphasis on attempting to use the good offices of my local
Senators to place such pressure on the FCC that they could only ignore
the situation @ peril of their job(s)!!!

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