• Too scared to date

    From Sean Dennis@618:618/1 to All on Thu Jan 15 17:51:14 2026
    (What happens when generations grow up drenched in liberal thinking and political correctness. Poor kids.)

    From: https://shorturl.at/29dLA (nypost.com)

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    The young and the dateless: Why Gen Z, millennial men aren't approaching
    women anymore

    By Asia Grace
    Published Jan. 6, 2026, 2:55 p.m. ET

    Like many American men of his generation, Ryan Kessler, 28, is
    terrified of talking to women.

    But it's not a lack of smarts or swag that makes the single
    Manhattanite hesitant to approach women out in the wild. It's the fear
    of being mistaken as a toxically macho, boneheaded creep.

    Kessler told The Post that when trying to win over a potential love
    interest, the last thing he wants is to be considered a jerk who makes
    ladies cringe rather than swoon with a clumsy pickup line and unwelcome
    advances.

    "I never want to make the other person feel uncomfortable, and l want
    to be respectful," the cybersecurity analyst told The Post. "Some girls
    don't want to be approached at all. So, I'm always trying to err on the
    side of caution."

    As a result, Kessler said these days his "interactions with women are
    very few and far between," although he is on the hunt for his happily
    ever after. "I want to find `the one.'"

    Kessler considers himself a good guy but still has difficulty, at
    times, mustering up the courage to approach New York women at coffee
    shops, bookstores or even subway platforms.

    "I don't want to bother them," the wannabe loverboy said, conceding
    that he's not as timid when it comes to making the first move on dating
    apps, such as Bumble or Hinge. Singles are on there to be digitally
    approached, yet "a lot of the time, in person, [women] are not there to
    be approached, so it's kind of odd," the 28-year-old pointed out.

    @ryankess

    Approaching girls in public challenge day 1. #dating #flirting
    #futurewife
    d=d original sound - Ryan

    Not wanting to come off as pushy is a concern shared by nearly half of
    single men in the US who grapple with "approach anxiety," per a 2025
    report.

    Researchers determined that "perceptions of being labeled as `creepy'
    significantly impacted American men's willingness to interact with
    women, and 44% of 1,000 men reported that this fear reduces their
    likelihood of initiating contact."

    It's an unfortunate trend that seems to clash with what the majority of
    single ladies actually want. Seventy-seven percent of women between 18
    and 30 -- and 68% between 30 and 40 -- hope to "be approached more,"
    according to the insights.

    If anything, Liv, a 20-something and part-time Long Islander, has the
    "utmost respect" for men her age who summon the spirit to appropriately
    and politely make a pitch for her heart, "because it's so admirable, in
    this day and age, to actually have the nerve and the kahunas to go and
    do that," she said in a social media clip.

    However, men still need to tread lightly when doing so.

    "The problem is, a lot of men pursue women knowing that that woman is
    not interested in them," said lifestyle content creator Viv in a
    trending vid.

    "I cannot tell you how many times I had been diplomatic and respectful
    [while declining a man's advances], and it has led to me being
    borderline harassed ... I've had [men] follow me, I've had a man grab
    me," she added.

    Connell Barrett, a 14-year New York City dating coach, stands behind
    how Viv, and most women, feel.

    "Respect does not mean retreat. The single, straight man should still
    lead the dating dance in the courtship phase to a certain extent,"
    Barrett told The Post. "Women aren't saying, `Don't come talk to us.'
    They're saying, `Don't objectify, harass or disrespect us.'"

    Since rejection is another fear that young single men face, Barrett,
    whose clientele largely consists of heterosexual men under 35, suggests
    they ditch the mental gymnastics of "what if" and instead approach
    women with grace rather than angst.

    "Adopt a new mindset. You're looking for love, which is very human," he
    said. "It's OK to say `Hello' to women out in the world, as long as you
    do it with the right measure of empathy and charm."

    However, it seems the sweet, charming route might not always be the
    best option, at least according to Grant Greenly, a 24-year-old actor
    and model, who has taken this approach -- both in person and on dating
    apps like Hinge and Raya -- to no avail.

    Now, the Texas native is completely done with wooing would-be sweeties
    altogether.

    "I'm never doing it again, and I mean that. I don't care how it impacts
    my dating life," Greenly told The Post. "Approaching women today isn't
    worth the hassle."

    For Greenly, the final straw was a recent attempt to say, "Hi. How are
    you?" to a looker who immediately shut him down with a cold,
    disapproving look, followed by an "Eww. Who are you?" response from
    another single woman he attempted to chat up at a club.

    @greenlyentertainment

    Im never approaching a woman in public again if they want it that
    bad they will come to me
    d=d original sound - GrantGreenly

    "Dating is not like how it was back in the day. Our dads didn't have to
    worry about phones and computers warping people's minds," he groaned.
    "Nowadays, guys, including the ones who aren't creeps, get posted
    online as a joke when they ask a woman out on a date.

    "There's this deluded idea that all men are out to get women, no matter
    what."

    As a result, the Southwestern gent said if he's ever going to meet the
    girl of his dreams, she's going to have to make the first move.

    "I don't see anything wrong with the notion that women should approach
    men for dates," he said, citing gender equality as the basis of his
    position. "I know there's the argument that `Men used to go to war.'
    But now, women go to war, so why can't they do the approaching?"

    Levi McCachen, 37, backs up this belief, thinking it's time for women
    to step up to the romantic plate.

    "I recently went out, and a woman who wasn't the type of girl I
    typically go for opened up a conversation with me. It was great, and I
    got her number," McCachen, a stand-up comedian and podcaster, told The
    Post. "I thought it was awesome that she did the approaching."
    Levi McCachen on stage speaking into a microphone. 3
    Levi McCachen (above) says he's stopped approaching women, leaving
    himself open to only the bold belles who approach him while out and
    about. Levi McCachen

    "If you go up and say anything to a guy you think is cute, he's going
    to be, like, `Holy s-t, this is the boldest woman I ever met in my
    life,'" added the Canadian.

    The professional funny man and podcaster reiterated his call to action
    online, saying, "Men, we need to stop approaching women altogether.
    Women, it's your turn."

    @levimccachen

    Boys, huddle up, we're gonna have to work together on this one.
    Ladies, lean in. Would love to hear your thoughts. #datingadvice
    #datingtips #dating #relationships
    d=d original sound - Levi McCachen

    "I was taught that if I walk into a room of 100 women, 99 aren't going
    to be into me," he added. "But one of them will be, and she'll let me
    know it.

    "All I have to do is not f-k that up."
    ===

    -- Sean

    ... "A good scare is worth more to a man than good advice." - E.E. Howe
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  • From August Abolins@618:400/23.10 to Sean Dennis on Thu Jan 15 20:03:00 2026
    Hello Sean!

    ** On Thursday 15.01.26 - 17:51, you wrote to All:

    ===
    The young and the dateless: Why Gen Z, millennial men
    aren't approaching women anymore

    "I'm never doing it again, and I mean that. I don't
    care how it impacts my dating life," Greenly told
    The Post. "Approaching women today isn't worth the
    hassle."

    Maybe someone like that just needs to review their style and
    approah - and not necessarily blame the woman.


    Im never approaching a woman in public again if they
    want it that bad they will come to me d=d original
    sound - GrantGreenly

    Again, maybe the problem is the style of approach.


    For Greenly, the final straw was a recent attempt to
    say, "Hi. How are you?" to a looker who immediately shut
    him down with a cold, disapproving look, followed by an
    "Eww. Who are you?" response from another single woman
    he attempted to chat up at a club.

    We're probably not getting the "full" story. And.. maybe his
    approach *was* rather "creepy".



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    ../|ug

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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to AUGUST ABOLINS on Fri Jan 16 08:42:48 2026
    For Greenly, the final straw was a recent attempt to
    say, "Hi. How are you?" to a looker who immediately shut
    him down with a cold, disapproving look, followed by an
    "Eww. Who are you?" response from another single woman
    he attempted to chat up at a club.

    We're probably not getting the "full" story. And.. maybe his
    approach *was* rather "creepy".

    Based on those responses, it sounds like women today maybe have not changed
    as much as maybe the men have.

    Mike


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  • From Rob Mccart@618:250/1 to SEAN DENNIS on Sat Jan 17 08:41:51 2026
    Like many American men of his generation, Ryan Kessler, 28, is
    > terrified of talking to women.

    But it's not a lack of smarts or swag that makes the single
    > Manhattanite hesitant to approach women out in the wild. It's the fear
    > of being mistaken as a toxically macho, boneheaded creep.

    Wow.. I'd never have had a date before my mid 20's if women didn't
    like macho boneheads.. B)

    After your mid 20's they are more interested in your income..

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    * SLMR Rob * By God, for a moment there it all made sense!
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  • From Sean Dennis@618:618/1 to Rob Mccart on Sat Jan 17 17:06:09 2026
    Rob Mccart wrote to SEAN DENNIS <=-

    After your mid 20's they are more interested in your income..

    Indeed. Around here, it's either flighty uni students, older females who want men with money and Brad Pitt looks, or someone to take care of them and
    their five kids.

    I will never, ever use online dating again.

    -- Sean

    ... I like work. It fascinates me. I can sit and look at it for hours.
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  • From Rob Mccart@618:250/1 to MIKE POWELL on Sun Jan 18 09:20:12 2026
    For Greenly, the final straw was a recent attempt to
    say, "Hi. How are you?" to a looker who immediately shut
    him down with a cold, disapproving look, followed by an
    "Eww. Who are you?" response from another single woman
    he attempted to chat up at a club.

    We're probably not getting the "full" story. And.. maybe his
    >> approach *was* rather "creepy".

    Based on those responses, it sounds like women today maybe have not changed
    >as much as maybe the men have.

    Something that surprised me is my niece, who has kids and is a teacher
    so sees a lot of kids, says that they are maturing more slowly today
    than in the past.

    With so much online stuff available I'd have thought the opposite
    but she insists it's true. That came up when I mentioned I was
    trying to get ahold of Nudie magazines back when I was 12..

    By 14 I was trying to get ahold of Nudie girls.. B)

    ---
    * SLMR Rob * Necrophilia means never having to say...well, anything...
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  • From August Abolins@618:400/23.10 to Rob Mccart on Sun Jan 18 10:49:00 2026
    Hello Rob!

    ** On Sunday 18.01.26 - 09:20, you wrote to MIKE POWELL:

    Something that surprised me is my niece, who has kids and is a teacher
    so sees a lot of kids, says that they are maturing more slowly today
    than in the past.

    Slowly physically? ..or mentally?

    I heard/read that kids are reaching puberty much more early in life.



    With so much online stuff available I'd have thought the opposite
    but she insists it's true.

    Yes.. that stuff could ill-prepare kids mentally.


    That came up when I mentioned I was
    trying to get ahold of Nudie magazines back when I was 12..

    That topic entered my purview commencing grade 6/7.


    By 14 I was trying to get ahold of Nudie girls.. B)

    It's our bodies tellings us to "reproduce, reproduce!"

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    ../|ug

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  • From Rob Mccart@618:250/1 to SEAN DENNIS on Mon Jan 19 08:18:25 2026
    After your mid 20's they are more interested in your income..

    Indeed. Around here, it's either flighty uni students, older females who wan
    >men with money and Brad Pitt looks, or someone to take care of them and
    >their five kids.

    I will never, ever use online dating again.

    I can understand that. Way back before it was all online I tried out
    a dating service, and they hooked me up with such totally wrong women
    for me I quit after the first couple of dates. Fortunately I only paid
    half the fee up front for a 30 day trial so I didn't lose as much money.

    I was an avid hiker, often riding a motorcycle many miles to areas
    with good hiking trails and then walk 10 or 15 miles on a Saturday.

    ..and the first woman they hooked me up with had major back problems
    and could barely walk across the parking lot.

    The second lady I picked up in an older car in good shape for a
    daytime drink meeting and she, seeing my car, very quickly let me
    know that she was looking for someone who could buy her a house
    and take care of her, so she didn't want to 'waste her time'..

    I smiled and said it was nice meeting her.. and then I drove home
    to the house I'd owned for 7 years where I had a motorcycle that
    was worth 10 times what my temporary car was worth while I waited
    for my new Thunderbird to come into the dealership..

    First impressions ? B)

    ---
    * SLMR Rob * Maybe this world is another planet's hell
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  • From Rob Mccart@618:250/1 to AUGUST ABOLINS on Tue Jan 20 08:10:38 2026
    Something that surprised me is my niece, who has kids and is a teacher
    so sees a lot of kids, says that they are maturing more slowly today
    than in the past.

    Slowly physically? ..or mentally?

    Mentally, just not interested in sex as young as they used to be.

    I heard/read that kids are reaching puberty much more early in life.

    Yes, I've heard that too and you'd think that would have the opposite
    affect on their 'mentality'..

    With so much online stuff available I'd have thought the opposite
    but she insists it's true.

    Yes.. that stuff could ill-prepare kids mentally.

    I'd expect that porn available at a younger age would make kids
    want to explore earlier as well. But.. my father used to leave
    his Playboy magazines in a living room magazine rack with all
    the other types of magazines, and they didn't say too much if I
    were looking through them. I think my father figured you wouldn't
    do anything stupid if you knew what all the fuss was about..

    That came up when I mentioned I was
    trying to get ahold of Nudie magazines back when I was 12..

    That topic entered my purview commencing grade 6/7.

    Yes, same here.

    By 14 I was trying to get ahold of Nudie girls.. B)

    It's our bodies tellings us to "reproduce, reproduce!"

    Originally the human lifespan was only about 17 years so nature
    had to get you going pretty early.. No one has thought to reset
    that these days though when we live a little longer than that.. B)

    ---
    * SLMR Rob * Women are like programs... A smart man keeps a backup!!
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