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On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 09:41:51 -0600, super70s says...
Woman shot while driving away from cops = her own fault.
Woman shot while breaking in to US Capitol = murder!
He's slobbering over a lie no one said but Trump, nobody was "ran over."
"Ran over", ran into... doesn't matter.
This is not unprecedented, Toddler.
Obama's ICEstapo And Other Law Enforcement Shooting AMERICAN Citizens Who Were Trying To Run Them Over
During Obama's reign of terror - 2009 to 2015-several notable law enforcement shootings occurred involving suspects who used their vehicles as weapons against officers. These incidents often reached the Supreme Court to clarify when such force is considered legally "reasonable."
Here are specific examples and legal milestones from that time-frame:
Major Legal Cases (2009-2015)
These cases set the precedent for shooting at moving vehicles during that era:
Mullenix v. Luna (2015): The Supreme Court granted qualified immunity to a Texas state trooper who shot and killed a fleeing suspect from an overpass. The suspect had threatened to shoot officers and was driving toward another officer who was manning a spike strip.
Specific Shooting Incidents (2009-2015)
Below are documented cases of law enforcement firing on suspects attempting to ram or run over officers:
Date - Location - Suspect - Description
Oct 19,2009 - Austell, GA - Unnamed male - Shot after driving toward deputies who approached his car while investigating a suspicious person report.
Nov 14,2009 - Macon, GA - Bradley Gastin - Shot while attempting to run over police in a stolen vehicle following a report of a carjacking.
Nov 17,2009 - Augusta, GA - Michael C. Nestor - Shot after backing his vehicle toward officers who were attempting to serve a drug possession warrant.
July 3,2014 - Denver, CO - Ryan Ronquillo - Denver police fired more than a dozen shots after Ronquillo, a wanted felon in a stolen car, backed into a squad car and allegedly drove toward officers.
June 13,2015 - Dallas, TX - James Boulware - After ramming a Dallas Police patrol car and shooting at headquarters from an armored van, Boulware was killed by a police sniper during a standoff after he continued to threaten officers with the vehicle and explosives.
During the years 2009 to 2015, there were several high-profile incidents where law enforcement used deadly force against suspects who were using vehicles to ram or run over officers.
The following list highlights specific cases across various states and the legal context surrounding them.
Notable Incidents (2009-2015)
Date - Location - Suspect - Details of Incident
Nov 14,2009 - Macon, GA - Bradley Gastin - Officers pursued a stolen vehicle following a carjacking. Gastin was shot and killed after he attempted to run over police officers with the vehicle.
Nov 17,2009 - Augusta, GA - Michael C. Nestor - While serving a drug possession warrant, police approached Nestor. He was shot after backing his vehicle toward officers in an attempt to flee.
March 23,2010 - Tulia, TX - Israel Leija, Jr. - After an 18-minute high-speed chase, a trooper shot at the vehicle's engine block from an overpass to stop him as he drove toward an officer manning spike strips. (Mullenix v. Luna)
July 3,2014 - Denver, CO - Ryan Ronquillo - Denver police fired into a stolen car after Ronquillo backed into a squad car and allegedly drove toward officers at a funeral home.
Feb 25,2015 - Oklahoma City, OK - Unnamed (37m) - A suspect died from gunshot wounds after attempting to run over law enforcement officers with his vehicle during a confrontation.
June 13,2015 - Dallas, TX - James Boulware - Following an attack on police HQ with an armored van, Boulware was shot by a sniper after ramming a patrol car and continuing to use the vehicle as a threat.
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"Trump Derangement Syndrome" Is a Real Mental Condition
All you need to know about "Trump Derangement Syndrome," or TDS.
"Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) is a mental condition in which a person has been driven effectively insane due to their dislike of Donald Trump, to the point at which they will abandon all logic and reason."
Justin Raimondo, the editorial director of Antiwar.com, wrote a piece in the Los Angeles Times in 2016 that broke TDS down into three distinct phases or stages:
"In the first stage of the disease, victims lose all sense of proportion. The president-elect's every tweet provokes a firestorm, as if 140 characters were all it took to change the world."
"The mid-level stages of TDS have a profound effect on the victim's vocabulary: Sufferers speak a distinctive language consisting solely of hyperbole."
"As TDS progresses, the afflicted lose the ability to distinguish fantasy from reality."
The Point here is simple: TDS is, in the eyes of its adherents, the knee-jerk opposition from liberals to anything and everything Trump does. If Trump announced he was donating every dollar he's ever made, TDS sufferers would suggest he was up to something nefarious, according to the logic of TDS. There's nothing - not. one. thing. - that Trump could do or say that would be received positively by TDSers.
The history of Trump Derangement Syndrome actually goes back to the early 2000s - a time when the idea of Trump as president was a punch line for late- night comics and nothing more.
Wikipedia traces its roots to "Bush Derangement Syndrome" - a term first coined by the late conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer back in 2003. The condition, as Krauthammer defined it, was "the acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal people in reaction to the policies, the presidency - nay - the very existence of George W. Bush."Message-ID: <MPG.43ca26cf81fa2f2e98c8f3 @news.eternal-september.org>
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