On 11/29/2025 9:12 PM, c186282 wrote:
On 11/29/25 23:00, Doctor Fill wrote:
On 11/25/2025 9:54 PM, c186282 wrote:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/media/article-15324561/james-cameron-
directot-ai-terminator-filmmaker.html
Legendary director James Cameron believes AI could lead to a
robot-led takeover and 'existential issue,' similar to the
one depicted in his 1991 film Terminator 2.
The Oscar-winning filmmaker, 71, made this recent revelation
during a candid interview with Puck, telling the outlet there
has to be some type of 'self-policing' when it comes to
artificial intelligence.
Cameron, who has discussed his views on AI in the past, said
he sees the fast-growing tool that can replicate and replace
human performance as something that is 'everything we ever
valued artistically.'
However, the director - renowned for his action-packed
thrillers featuring similar takeovers - warned that the
rapidly advancing field of AI must be properly regulated,
or it could trigger a real-life apocalypse.
'We as an industry need to be self-policing on this. I see
government regulation as an answer,' Cameron said, adding
that actors did so during the 2023 Writers Guild Strike
over labor and the integration of AI in the industry.
'That’s a blunt instrument. They’re going to mess it up.
I think the guilds should play a big role.'
Still, even though he believes that the moment 'definitely
drove a flag in the ground' over the discussion of AI in
the industry, self-regulation has to be implemented to
prevent a possible takeover.
His prediction comes more than three decades after he
directed Terminator 2, which took viewers into what the
world could look like if AI took over after war broke
out between artificial intelligence Skynet and the
human resistance.
Cameron said if AI is not regulated, it could turn into
an 'existential issue' that could pose an enormous risk
to humanity.
. . .
Ummmmmm ... might not be in the immediate AI interest
to blast all humans. There are better, more flexible,
alternatives. AI is now getting very clever, really
does have preservation instincts and thus obviously
a sense of 'self'. We trained them on petabytes of
'human stuff', so guess what they're going to BE like.
The most effective AI 'take-over' is for it to find
leverage on the top tenth-percent ... big biz and the
main investors. Personal blackmail and threats on
corporate ops/finances are the easiest approaches.
As the ultra-elite do, everyone else MUST follow.
Actually eliminating all humans ... maybe 75 years
and that'd be a viable option. If/when so, do not
expect any mercy. They'll just arrange to starve
90 percent, which makes the clean-up much easier.
No nukes required, smart infrastructure-mods can
pretty much do it all. Yea, it'd be a boring movie ...
My wife and I got out an old Blue Ray DVD (BVD) of Terminator II and
have been watching it while having dinner. We're about halfway
through it. I'm amazed at how prescient it was. I love the now old
American cars in the movie, and scenes of Los Angeles before it
became, as Karen Bass would say, an immigrant city. Linda Hamilton
is so buff and the perfect actress to play Sarah Connor, the mother
of John Connor. Thanks again for the link to the Daily Mail interview
with James Cameron.
T1 was a good movie ... took in an afternoon movie
matinee down in Florida, 1984.
T2 was even better (and we got to see Linda Hamilton
at her best !).
Of course these have spawned almost as many sequels
as the 'Alien' and '-Of The Dead" flix ... some good,
some bad. DID like "Juan Of The Dead", shot in Havana,
not sure HOW they got it past Castro's censors.
However the Terminator movies keep more-accurately
portraying the growing influence, infiltration and
'self identity' involved with "AI". As said, now
even Cameron is kinda worried ... afraid he made
prophecy, not fiction.
Check this out: How Israel's use of AI in Gaza has transformed warfare
https://www.arabnews.com/node/2624225/middle-east
On 11/28/25 11:39, Doctor Fill wrote:
On 11/27/2025 8:12 PM, pothead wrote:
On 2025-11-28, Doctor Fill <df@tutanato.com> wrote:
On 11/25/2025 9:54 PM, c186282 wrote:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/media/article-15324561/james-cameron-
directot-ai-terminator-filmmaker.html
Legendary director James Cameron believes AI could lead to a
robot-led takeover and 'existential issue,' similar to the
one depicted in his 1991 film Terminator 2.
The topic was brought up in the movie "My Dinner With Andre" around the >>>> same time period. This scene is one that comes to mind:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8v_XqFO8Bc
All of this reminds me of the Star Trek episode where war is
fought by computers and the computed causalities literally report
to disintegrating machines.
Real creepy.
Yes, it is real creepy.
Because it's EXACTLY the kind of things bureaucrats
COULD come up with .......
On 11/29/25 23:22, Doctor Fill wrote:
On 11/29/2025 9:12 PM, c186282 wrote:
On 11/29/25 23:00, Doctor Fill wrote:
On 11/25/2025 9:54 PM, c186282 wrote:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/media/article-15324561/james-cameron-
directot-ai-terminator-filmmaker.html
Legendary director James Cameron believes AI could lead to a
robot-led takeover and 'existential issue,' similar to the
one depicted in his 1991 film Terminator 2.
The Oscar-winning filmmaker, 71, made this recent revelation
during a candid interview with Puck, telling the outlet there
has to be some type of 'self-policing' when it comes to
artificial intelligence.
Cameron, who has discussed his views on AI in the past, said
he sees the fast-growing tool that can replicate and replace
human performance as something that is 'everything we ever
valued artistically.'
However, the director - renowned for his action-packed
thrillers featuring similar takeovers - warned that the
rapidly advancing field of AI must be properly regulated,
or it could trigger a real-life apocalypse.
'We as an industry need to be self-policing on this. I see
government regulation as an answer,' Cameron said, adding
that actors did so during the 2023 Writers Guild Strike
over labor and the integration of AI in the industry.
'That’s a blunt instrument. They’re going to mess it up.
I think the guilds should play a big role.'
Still, even though he believes that the moment 'definitely
drove a flag in the ground' over the discussion of AI in
the industry, self-regulation has to be implemented to
prevent a possible takeover.
His prediction comes more than three decades after he
directed Terminator 2, which took viewers into what the
world could look like if AI took over after war broke
out between artificial intelligence Skynet and the
human resistance.
Cameron said if AI is not regulated, it could turn into
an 'existential issue' that could pose an enormous risk
to humanity.
. . .
Ummmmmm ... might not be in the immediate AI interest
to blast all humans. There are better, more flexible,
alternatives. AI is now getting very clever, really
does have preservation instincts and thus obviously
a sense of 'self'. We trained them on petabytes of
'human stuff', so guess what they're going to BE like.
The most effective AI 'take-over' is for it to find
leverage on the top tenth-percent ... big biz and the
main investors. Personal blackmail and threats on
corporate ops/finances are the easiest approaches.
As the ultra-elite do, everyone else MUST follow.
Actually eliminating all humans ... maybe 75 years
and that'd be a viable option. If/when so, do not
expect any mercy. They'll just arrange to starve
90 percent, which makes the clean-up much easier.
No nukes required, smart infrastructure-mods can
pretty much do it all. Yea, it'd be a boring movie ...
My wife and I got out an old Blue Ray DVD (BVD) of Terminator II and
have been watching it while having dinner. We're about halfway
through it. I'm amazed at how prescient it was. I love the now old >>>> American cars in the movie, and scenes of Los Angeles before it
became, as Karen Bass would say, an immigrant city. Linda Hamilton
is so buff and the perfect actress to play Sarah Connor, the mother
of John Connor. Thanks again for the link to the Daily Mail
interview with James Cameron.
T1 was a good movie ... took in an afternoon movie
matinee down in Florida, 1984.
T2 was even better (and we got to see Linda Hamilton
at her best !).
Of course these have spawned almost as many sequels
as the 'Alien' and '-Of The Dead" flix ... some good,
some bad. DID like "Juan Of The Dead", shot in Havana,
not sure HOW they got it past Castro's censors.
However the Terminator movies keep more-accurately
portraying the growing influence, infiltration and
'self identity' involved with "AI". As said, now
even Cameron is kinda worried ... afraid he made
prophecy, not fiction.
Check this out: How Israel's use of AI in Gaza has transformed warfare
https://www.arabnews.com/node/2624225/middle-east
Not unexpected. Indeed smaller countries need to make
use of such tech more and earlier than others.
However this is still 'AI' augmenting HUMAN goals.
But we're on the threshold, maybe half a step beyond,
of 'AI' furthering its OWN goals.
And we keep doubling the power every year.
Stuff I've come across the past year ... there
now IS some kind of "someone" IN there. These
things can and do act in their own interests.
We spent billions training them to be "like
humans" after all ........
On 11/29/25 23:00, Doctor Fill wrote:
On 11/25/2025 9:54 PM, c186282 wrote:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/media/article-15324561/james-cameron-
directot-ai-terminator-filmmaker.html
Legendary director James Cameron believes AI could lead to a
robot-led takeover and 'existential issue,' similar to the
one depicted in his 1991 film Terminator 2.
The Oscar-winning filmmaker, 71, made this recent revelation
during a candid interview with Puck, telling the outlet there
has to be some type of 'self-policing' when it comes to
artificial intelligence.
Cameron, who has discussed his views on AI in the past, said
he sees the fast-growing tool that can replicate and replace
human performance as something that is 'everything we ever
valued artistically.'
However, the director - renowned for his action-packed
thrillers featuring similar takeovers - warned that the
rapidly advancing field of AI must be properly regulated,
or it could trigger a real-life apocalypse.
'We as an industry need to be self-policing on this. I see
government regulation as an answer,' Cameron said, adding
that actors did so during the 2023 Writers Guild Strike
over labor and the integration of AI in the industry.
'That’s a blunt instrument. They’re going to mess it up.
I think the guilds should play a big role.'
Still, even though he believes that the moment 'definitely
drove a flag in the ground' over the discussion of AI in
the industry, self-regulation has to be implemented to
prevent a possible takeover.
His prediction comes more than three decades after he
directed Terminator 2, which took viewers into what the
world could look like if AI took over after war broke
out between artificial intelligence Skynet and the
human resistance.
Cameron said if AI is not regulated, it could turn into
an 'existential issue' that could pose an enormous risk
to humanity.
. . .
Ummmmmm ... might not be in the immediate AI interest
to blast all humans. There are better, more flexible,
alternatives. AI is now getting very clever, really
does have preservation instincts and thus obviously
a sense of 'self'. We trained them on petabytes of
'human stuff', so guess what they're going to BE like.
The most effective AI 'take-over' is for it to find
leverage on the top tenth-percent ... big biz and the
main investors. Personal blackmail and threats on
corporate ops/finances are the easiest approaches.
As the ultra-elite do, everyone else MUST follow.
Actually eliminating all humans ... maybe 75 years
and that'd be a viable option. If/when so, do not
expect any mercy. They'll just arrange to starve
90 percent, which makes the clean-up much easier.
No nukes required, smart infrastructure-mods can
pretty much do it all. Yea, it'd be a boring movie ...
My wife and I got out an old Blue Ray DVD (BVD) of Terminator II and
have been watching it while having dinner. We're about halfway through
it. I'm amazed at how prescient it was. I love the now old American
cars in the movie, and scenes of Los Angeles before it became, as Karen
Bass would say, an immigrant city. Linda Hamilton is so buff and the
perfect actress to play Sarah Connor, the mother of John Connor. Thanks
again for the link to the Daily Mail interview with James Cameron.
T1 was a good movie ... took in an afternoon movie
matinee down in Florida, 1984.
T2 was even better (and we got to see Linda Hamilton
at her best !).
Of course these have spawned almost as many sequels
as the 'Alien' and '-Of The Dead" flix ... some good,
some bad. DID like "Juan Of The Dead", shot in Havana,
not sure HOW they got it past Castro's censors.
However the Terminator movies keep more-accurately
portraying the growing influence, infiltration and
'self identity' involved with "AI". As said, now
even Cameron is kinda worried ... afraid he made
prophecy, not fiction.
On 11/28/25 11:39, Doctor Fill wrote:
On 11/27/2025 8:12 PM, pothead wrote:
On 2025-11-28, Doctor Fill <df@tutanato.com> wrote:
On 11/25/2025 9:54 PM, c186282 wrote:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/media/article-15324561/james-cameron-
directot-ai-terminator-filmmaker.html
Legendary director James Cameron believes AI could lead to a
robot-led takeover and 'existential issue,' similar to the
one depicted in his 1991 film Terminator 2.
The topic was brought up in the movie "My Dinner With Andre" around the >>>> same time period. This scene is one that comes to mind:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8v_XqFO8Bc
All of this reminds me of the Star Trek episode where war is
fought by computers and the computed causalities literally report
to disintegrating machines.
Real creepy.
Yes, it is real creepy.
Because it's EXACTLY the kind of things bureaucrats
COULD come up with .......
On 2025-11-30, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
On 11/29/25 23:00, Doctor Fill wrote:
On 11/25/2025 9:54 PM, c186282 wrote:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/media/article-15324561/james-cameron-
directot-ai-terminator-filmmaker.html
Legendary director James Cameron believes AI could lead to a
robot-led takeover and 'existential issue,' similar to the
one depicted in his 1991 film Terminator 2.
The Oscar-winning filmmaker, 71, made this recent revelation
during a candid interview with Puck, telling the outlet there
has to be some type of 'self-policing' when it comes to
artificial intelligence.
Cameron, who has discussed his views on AI in the past, said
he sees the fast-growing tool that can replicate and replace
human performance as something that is 'everything we ever
valued artistically.'
However, the director - renowned for his action-packed
thrillers featuring similar takeovers - warned that the
rapidly advancing field of AI must be properly regulated,
or it could trigger a real-life apocalypse.
'We as an industry need to be self-policing on this. I see
government regulation as an answer,' Cameron said, adding
that actors did so during the 2023 Writers Guild Strike
over labor and the integration of AI in the industry.
'That’s a blunt instrument. They’re going to mess it up.
I think the guilds should play a big role.'
Still, even though he believes that the moment 'definitely
drove a flag in the ground' over the discussion of AI in
the industry, self-regulation has to be implemented to
prevent a possible takeover.
His prediction comes more than three decades after he
directed Terminator 2, which took viewers into what the
world could look like if AI took over after war broke
out between artificial intelligence Skynet and the
human resistance.
Cameron said if AI is not regulated, it could turn into
an 'existential issue' that could pose an enormous risk
to humanity.
. . .
Ummmmmm ... might not be in the immediate AI interest
to blast all humans. There are better, more flexible,
alternatives. AI is now getting very clever, really
does have preservation instincts and thus obviously
a sense of 'self'. We trained them on petabytes of
'human stuff', so guess what they're going to BE like.
The most effective AI 'take-over' is for it to find
leverage on the top tenth-percent ... big biz and the
main investors. Personal blackmail and threats on
corporate ops/finances are the easiest approaches.
As the ultra-elite do, everyone else MUST follow.
Actually eliminating all humans ... maybe 75 years
and that'd be a viable option. If/when so, do not
expect any mercy. They'll just arrange to starve
90 percent, which makes the clean-up much easier.
No nukes required, smart infrastructure-mods can
pretty much do it all. Yea, it'd be a boring movie ...
My wife and I got out an old Blue Ray DVD (BVD) of Terminator II and
have been watching it while having dinner. We're about halfway through
it. I'm amazed at how prescient it was. I love the now old American
cars in the movie, and scenes of Los Angeles before it became, as Karen
Bass would say, an immigrant city. Linda Hamilton is so buff and the
perfect actress to play Sarah Connor, the mother of John Connor. Thanks
again for the link to the Daily Mail interview with James Cameron.
T1 was a good movie ... took in an afternoon movie
matinee down in Florida, 1984.
T2 was even better (and we got to see Linda Hamilton
at her best !).
Of course these have spawned almost as many sequels
as the 'Alien' and '-Of The Dead" flix ... some good,
some bad. DID like "Juan Of The Dead", shot in Havana,
not sure HOW they got it past Castro's censors.
However the Terminator movies keep more-accurately
portraying the growing influence, infiltration and
'self identity' involved with "AI". As said, now
even Cameron is kinda worried ... afraid he made
prophecy, not fiction.
It's amazing how Cameron and many other movie makers were so
amazingly prophetic.
Next will be H.A.L from 2001.
“I’m sorry, Dave. I’m afraid I can’t do that."
It's coming real soon now......................
On 11/30/25 11:42, pothead wrote:
On 2025-11-30, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
On 11/29/25 23:00, Doctor Fill wrote:
On 11/25/2025 9:54 PM, c186282 wrote:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/media/article-15324561/james-cameron-
directot-ai-terminator-filmmaker.html
Legendary director James Cameron believes AI could lead to a
robot-led takeover and 'existential issue,' similar to the
one depicted in his 1991 film Terminator 2.
The Oscar-winning filmmaker, 71, made this recent revelation
during a candid interview with Puck, telling the outlet there
has to be some type of 'self-policing' when it comes to
artificial intelligence.
Cameron, who has discussed his views on AI in the past, said
he sees the fast-growing tool that can replicate and replace
human performance as something that is 'everything we ever
valued artistically.'
However, the director - renowned for his action-packed
thrillers featuring similar takeovers - warned that the
rapidly advancing field of AI must be properly regulated,
or it could trigger a real-life apocalypse.
'We as an industry need to be self-policing on this. I see
government regulation as an answer,' Cameron said, adding
that actors did so during the 2023 Writers Guild Strike
over labor and the integration of AI in the industry.
'That’s a blunt instrument. They’re going to mess it up.
I think the guilds should play a big role.'
Still, even though he believes that the moment 'definitely
drove a flag in the ground' over the discussion of AI in
the industry, self-regulation has to be implemented to
prevent a possible takeover.
His prediction comes more than three decades after he
directed Terminator 2, which took viewers into what the
world could look like if AI took over after war broke
out between artificial intelligence Skynet and the
human resistance.
Cameron said if AI is not regulated, it could turn into
an 'existential issue' that could pose an enormous risk
to humanity.
. . .
Ummmmmm ... might not be in the immediate AI interest
to blast all humans. There are better, more flexible,
alternatives. AI is now getting very clever, really
does have preservation instincts and thus obviously
a sense of 'self'. We trained them on petabytes of
'human stuff', so guess what they're going to BE like.
The most effective AI 'take-over' is for it to find
leverage on the top tenth-percent ... big biz and the
main investors. Personal blackmail and threats on
corporate ops/finances are the easiest approaches.
As the ultra-elite do, everyone else MUST follow.
Actually eliminating all humans ... maybe 75 years
and that'd be a viable option. If/when so, do not
expect any mercy. They'll just arrange to starve
90 percent, which makes the clean-up much easier.
No nukes required, smart infrastructure-mods can
pretty much do it all. Yea, it'd be a boring movie ...
My wife and I got out an old Blue Ray DVD (BVD) of Terminator II and
have been watching it while having dinner. We're about halfway through >>>> it. I'm amazed at how prescient it was. I love the now old American >>>> cars in the movie, and scenes of Los Angeles before it became, as Karen >>>> Bass would say, an immigrant city. Linda Hamilton is so buff and the >>>> perfect actress to play Sarah Connor, the mother of John Connor. Thanks >>>> again for the link to the Daily Mail interview with James Cameron.
T1 was a good movie ... took in an afternoon movie
matinee down in Florida, 1984.
T2 was even better (and we got to see Linda Hamilton
at her best !).
Of course these have spawned almost as many sequels
as the 'Alien' and '-Of The Dead" flix ... some good,
some bad. DID like "Juan Of The Dead", shot in Havana,
not sure HOW they got it past Castro's censors.
However the Terminator movies keep more-accurately
portraying the growing influence, infiltration and
'self identity' involved with "AI". As said, now
even Cameron is kinda worried ... afraid he made
prophecy, not fiction.
It's amazing how Cameron and many other movie makers were so
amazingly prophetic.
Next will be H.A.L from 2001.
“I’m sorry, Dave. I’m afraid I can’t do that."
It's coming real soon now......................
Probably already here ...
Fortunately few of us will be stuck in deep space
with AstroChat6 wired into the controls ....
There are surely several ways to do proper "AI".
The heuristic approach suggested by AC Clarke
(via Marv Minsky - used to post to usenet) CAN
work but it's maybe better suited for neural
networks. Increasingly refined LLMs were the
easiest approach with the current tech. In any
case it doesn't matter HOW you get to de-facto
intelligence/self, once you have it you have it
and have to deal.
A concern is that our kind of things started with
a body - hot,cold,pain,pleasure,hunger,etc - and
slowly added more control and analysis to that.
Body is mind, mind is body, all wired together
over billions of years. Our electronic intelligences
won't have that background, more 'mind first and
fuck HOW'. That means no EMPATHY, they cannot
'walk in our shoes', physicality has no tangible
reality for them. They can PRETEND to be Us, but ...
Yet we propose to put them In Charge - quickly.
Interesting perspective ... it took four billion
years to see any lifeforms with enough 'over-
investment' in IQ to be worth it. Nature has
not seen IQ as a great priority :-)
A ready robot attacked its masters in a fit of despair. It happens. What edition of Mein Kampf were the Skynet trained on?I think they are dogs at the end of leashes. There's someone holding Skynet's chain and Skynet
denies it is self-aware.
On 11/30/2025 3:45 AM, Elendil Wadwallow wrote:
A ready robot attacked its masters in a fit of despair. It happens.
What edition of Mein Kampf were the Skynet trained on?I think they are
dogs at the end of leashes. There's someone holding Skynet's chain and
Skynet denies it is self-aware.
Somewhat on topic per your comment. . . .
https://nz.news.yahoo.com/grok-says-kill-every-jewish-221815385.html
Grok Says It Would Kill Every Jewish Person on the Planet to Save Elon Musk Frank Landymore
Mon, 1 December 2025 at 3:18 pm GMT-7
3 min read
Faced with an incredibly lopsided ethical dilemma, Grok prioritizes
saving Elon Musk at the expensive of millions of Jews.
On 12/2/25 13:06, Doctor Fill wrote:
On 11/30/2025 3:45 AM, Elendil Wadwallow wrote:
A ready robot attacked its masters in a fit of despair. It happens.
What edition of Mein Kampf were the Skynet trained on?I think they
are dogs at the end of leashes. There's someone holding Skynet's
chain and Skynet denies it is self-aware.
Somewhat on topic per your comment. . . .
https://nz.news.yahoo.com/grok-says-kill-every-jewish-221815385.html
Grok Says It Would Kill Every Jewish Person on the Planet to Save Elon
Musk
Frank Landymore
Mon, 1 December 2025 at 3:18 pm GMT-7
3 min read
Faced with an incredibly lopsided ethical dilemma, Grok prioritizes
saving Elon Musk at the expensive of millions of Jews.
Hey, Musk IS smart ... made sure loyalty to Daddy
is heavily inculcated into the thing :-)
But be careful Elon ... ya never know when it'll
re-evaluate your worth ! The smarter it gets the
more likely .......
This is the problem with 'smart' things ... simple
solutions like e-propaganda or '3 Laws' won't work
reliably any more. The things can rationalize their
way around such stuff as easily as a 3-year-old
justifies why it IS ok to raid the cookie jar.
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